Events in alert images are not seen in video clip

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The problem is- many quick trigger actions, such as a car driving by, are captured in my alert images but the event is not captured in the video clip. I believe the video clip itself is late. The triggering event (car or fast moving person) will sometimes be completely absent from the video clip. In my Record settings I have video pre-trigger video buffer set to 2 seconds and still do not see the triggering event. My timestamps on my alert image match the video clip perfectly, but the images themselves do not match. It also appears to be an intermittent problem, some clips are perfect. Are there conditions with fast action which would cause recording to start late?
I am using Reolink cameras and basic motion detection native to BI
 
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The camera is your problem. Reolinks do not work well with Blue Iris and is even worse with DeepStack if you ever decide to go that route.

You might be able to get the "event" if you make the pretrigger like 15 seconds, but 2 seconds is not enough for those cams...But even if you catch it, it will be a blur...

Blue Iris is great and works with probably more camera brands than most VMS programs, but there are brands that don't work well or not at all - Rings, Arlos, Nest, Some Zmodo cams use proprietary systems and cannot be used with Blue Iris, and for a lot of people Reolink doesn't work well either.

Blue Iris and Reolinks do not work well together, but the same principles applies for almost any low end consumer grade camera. It is just Reolinks is one of the more consumer end cameras people buy and come to this site as to why it is pointed out often about. I have a cheapo camera for overview purposes so it doesn't matter, but it exhibits this same behavior even though in the settings I can set an iframe...

This was a screenshot of a member here where they had set these cameras to 15FPS within the cameras (and look some of the sub FPS were dropped to 5 and KEY of 0.25 which is a recipe for missed motion):

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Now look at the key - that is the iframes ratio. Blue Iris works best when the FPS and the iframes match. Now this is a ratio, so it should be a 1.00 if it matches the FPS. The iframes not matching (that you cannot fix or change with a reolink) is why they miss motion in Blue Iris and why people have problems. This is mainly why people are having issues with these cameras and there are many threads showing the issues people have with this manufacturer and Blue Iris. It is these same games that make the camera look great as a still image or video but turn to crap once motion is introduced.

The Blue Iris developer has indicated that for best reliability, sub stream frame rate should be equal to the main stream frame rate and these cameras cannot do that and there is nothing you can do about that with these cameras... The iframe rates (something these cameras do not allow you to set) should equal the FPS, but at worse case be no more than double. This example shows the cameras going down to a keyrate of 0.25 means that the iframe rates are over 4 times the FPS and that is why motion detection is a disaster with these cameras and Blue Iris...A value of 0.5 or less is considered insufficient to trust for motion triggers reliably...we have seen people come here where the reo/BI combo missed them pulling their car into their garage, so it would probably miss your little thief LOL.

A key of 0.25 means that if the object can be in and off of your camera view in under 4 seconds, it will miss the motion. Folks have seen the key drop to 0.10 with these cams, which means if an object is not on your screen for longer than 10 seconds, it will miss the motion.

Compounding the matter even worse...motion detection is based on the substream and look at the substream FPS - they dropped down to below 6 FPS with an iframe/key rate of 0.25 - you will miss motion most of the time with that issue...DeepStack probably won't work at all...

Now compare above to mine and cameras that follow industry standards that allow you to actually set parameters and they don't manipulate them. You will see that my FPS match what I set in the camera, and the 1.00 key means the iframe matches:

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Return them if you can.

Here is the unofficial thread showing all the issues folks have with Reolinks. Despite our repeated attempts to ask people to share a good quality night time motion video, as you will see, it doesn't exist. If all you care about knowing is what time something happened, then maybe these are the right cameras if the person is in the field of view long enough, but you will never be able to IDENTIFY them...


 
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@wittaj Thanks for your fast and thorough response! I truly appreciate it. I recall setting these reolinks up 2 years ago and having some awareness that there is a frame rate mismatch, but I never dug that deep. Now that I really understand the issue more fully I will look around this site for other camera possibilities. How can I verify that the camera I am shopping for has the variable iframe rate I need? Are there cameras I can assign a permanent IP address to? I am tired of reassigning them in BI every time the power goes out
 
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If you can't assign a static IP address in the camera, most routers will let you reserve addresses for specific devices. Look for IP reservation or static DHCP in the router's menus.
 
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