Expert needed to reduce/eliminate flickering on DVR

GiovanniG

Young grasshopper
May 18, 2021
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Hi, I've the same issue in many systems I realized, the image suffers of flickering, and it is related to the HDD writes, each time HDD writes a flick appears on all cameras, usually the ones with longer distance have a bit less of that.

I am using a 12V 10A PSU with a 17Ah battery connected, this ensures me about 5/8 hours of surveillance when the power goes off, this creates the problem with the common ground, I'm aware of itm but using different PSU as somebody suggested needs a UPS, which has only few minutes of working time. Buy another PSU with battery increases costs and maintenance costs when it will need to replace batteries, it would better not doing it.

Analog cameras, connected by baluns on a 4 pair FTP cable, 3 pairs are used for power, one pair for video signal. On the DVR side (only) the shield of FTP cable is grounded with all other cables.
Touching the power concept isn't an option, since requires too much time and I really dubt it can help significantly.

I usually place on the DVR poer line a ferrite with many coils wrapped on, 2 coils exactly with same orientation (to have zero flux as result), one for positive and one for negative wire, and added 0,1uF capacitors too, this usually reduces the effect but not eliminate it. I've also tried to put it internally on the HDD power cable, to insulate the noise between HDD ground and DVR ground, but not great results.

What can I do? probably a DC/DC 12V/12V with galvanic insulation will solve the problem, I don't know if I can find cheap ones, any other suggestion? Thank you!
 
Show a brief video of this flickering.

It could be lines close in parallel to mains power, could be power supply, could be other things
 
Your analogue DVR/cables and cameras are very very susceptible to RF interference. Never heard or experienced the hard drive's emitting the interference. I've fitted many analogue DVR's/XVR's systems in the past (now only NVR's/IP) and always tried to use full copper screened coaxial cables. So to eliminate RF interference. Perhaps it's time to upgrade to a modern IP NVR & cameras?
 
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thank you for answers, I upload here a piece of video.
No power suplly problems, if I stop record on HDD the flicker disappears, the image is stable as it should
Shortly I can assure you no problem of camera, cable (it's FTP + balanced with baluns on both side) of power supply.
For me no way to spend much money to trash all and switch to IP, too late.I need to correct. Much cheaper is to buy another PSU with battery and power the DVR separately, but what a waste.

If you have chance to try to power DVR anc camera with same PSU you probably will see the same effect.
The more sensor of camera is gaining for the low light conditions, the more you will notice flickering, looks the noise is going till the camera and spoil the signal, instead interfere with ADC converter of DVR, bu I can be wrong
I hope somebody with the same issue experience can give an idea, thank you
 
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I had analog DVR and installed maybe a dozen for friends for years. I never saw a HD interfere with the image.

It still could be many things. Analog systems with that type of flicker are very hard to diagnose.

I would start with changing out the baluns and making sure the cable connections going to that camera are perfect at both ends. It doesnt take much

Is there a good simple explanation for the pulsing light running vertically where the arrow is?
How about the spot circled, near the end of the clip especially?

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