Hi everyone, I've got 4 ip cams , two on each separate network and would like to have them all record on a single NVR.I don't necessarily need remote access to the recordings, live feed through the cam app would be enough. What would be the best approach to do this, I haven't found any solid info on this yet....
Four cameras, two locations, one NVR
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+1^^^........ more info would help.
Is the NVR a POE NVR or are the cameras connected to a POE switch?
A simple sketch of network showing cams and NVR relationships would be nice.
Is the NVR a POE NVR or are the cameras connected to a POE switch?
A simple sketch of network showing cams and NVR relationships would be nice.
bigredfish
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You can add the cameras by their IP address.
Here I have cameras from 3 networks recording to a single NVR
Internal NVR PoE local camera (10.1.1.73)
local network cameras (192.168.1.X)
and a remote camera on another network (108.x.x.x)
*Now security issues as well as data transfer over the Interwebs may mean rethinking whether you SHOULD add remote cameras to the NVR.......
Here I have cameras from 3 networks recording to a single NVR
Internal NVR PoE local camera (10.1.1.73)
local network cameras (192.168.1.X)
and a remote camera on another network (108.x.x.x)
*Now security issues as well as data transfer over the Interwebs may mean rethinking whether you SHOULD add remote cameras to the NVR.......
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If some cams are outside Your network and Your internet connection, You have 2 possibilities:
- create peer-to-peer VPN tunnel between routers on both networks/internet connections...
This require better routers (the ones from internet providers don't have that option) and some knowledge about networking... Both network must use different private ip addresses/classes.. With this solution, you add external cameras using IP addresses from second network..
- use P2P connection between NVR and external cams...
Modern NVR like 4xxx-EI/5xxx-EI have support for connecting with external cams using P2P connection (like You connect using DMSS to NVR from outside Your network).. You must enable on external cams P2P support (network menu).. and them on NVR in second network, in camera list click on 'Manual Add', chose 'Register' as Manufacturer, in Registration ID You must put unique camera serial number + fill user/password field..
NVR will connect with cam in other network using P2P connection (this is some form of VPN)...
- create peer-to-peer VPN tunnel between routers on both networks/internet connections...
This require better routers (the ones from internet providers don't have that option) and some knowledge about networking... Both network must use different private ip addresses/classes.. With this solution, you add external cameras using IP addresses from second network..
- use P2P connection between NVR and external cams...
Modern NVR like 4xxx-EI/5xxx-EI have support for connecting with external cams using P2P connection (like You connect using DMSS to NVR from outside Your network).. You must enable on external cams P2P support (network menu).. and them on NVR in second network, in camera list click on 'Manual Add', chose 'Register' as Manufacturer, in Registration ID You must put unique camera serial number + fill user/password field..
NVR will connect with cam in other network using P2P connection (this is some form of VPN)...
bigredfish
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I was just about to mention I think it can be done via P2P but I dont have that capability on my older NVR
It's worth mentioning that the unifi cloud gateway mentioned in the below thread supports site to site vpn (they call it site magic) with what is essentially simple click and connect configuration.
Ubiquiti Networks Cloud Gateway Ultra
Picked one of these up in search of a relatively cheap easy to use vlan capable router (see the issues with the Asus expertwifi here Asus expertwifi ebr63 with vlan) . The amount of features packed in this unit for 130 bux is insane. I ordered from B&H and had it the next day. The Ubiquiti does...
I bought one of them the other day.
Not using site magic but I am using teleport which is their zero setup server/client VPN.
I'm very pleased with my purchase.
It's worth mentioning that the unifi cloud gateway mentioned in the below thread supports site to site vpn (they call it site magic) with what is essentially simple click and connect configuration.
Ubiquiti Networks Cloud Gateway Ultra
Picked one of these up in search of a relatively cheap easy to use vlan capable router (see the issues with the Asus expertwifi here Asus expertwifi ebr63 with vlan) . The amount of features packed in this unit for 130 bux is insane. I ordered from B&H and had it the next day. The Ubiquiti does...ipcamtalk.com
I bought one of them the other day.
Not using site magic but I am using teleport which is their zero setup server/client VPN.
Yes, I recommend Unifi for everyone...
Especially now, when they have small and cheap Cloud Gateway Ultra - which works as router and controller for all theirs equipment...
I administer 6 different networks having Unifi from one panel. This simply works..
3 different networks are connected with each other using magic site vpn.. Also simply works...
Teleport from any mobile using one click works like charm.. Many users for that..
Teleport don't even use classic users/passwords - You simply generate invitation link for each mobile user and ask them to click them..
Meraki is good like that too but a bit more enterprise and thus cost.
At work we manage about 40 sites all connected via site to site VPN containing routers, switches, APs and cameras all from the one portal.
Thank you all for the input, I suppose going for a p2p nvr is the simplest way to get things done in my case. I was thinking bout getting a Dahua NVR4108HS-4KS3 as it's cheap and has the P2P feature.
I can't confirm that this model have this feature...
it is very low line (more like 2xxx) and it have low limits (network bandwidth, decoding capability)..
cameras on site1 are connected to the second router (tp-link) but NVR is connected to first one? WHY????
It has P2P. The cameras are in a garage. I have 50m cable from main router to the tp-link one that is in the garage.
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bigredfish
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Dahua NVRs have had P2P for many years, mine is essentially a 2017 model and has it.
What @steve1225 is talking about is a special new feature in the camera Registration page, mine and a newer one I just helped a buddy install do not have it.
- use P2P connection between NVR and external cams...
Modern NVR like 4xxx-EI/5xxx-EI have support for connecting with external cams using P2P connection (like You connect using DMSS to NVR from outside Your network).. You must enable on external cams P2P support (network menu).. and them on NVR in second network, in camera list click on 'Manual Add', chose 'Register' as Manufacturer, in Registration ID You must put unique camera serial number + fill user/password field..
What @steve1225 is talking about is a special new feature in the camera Registration page, mine and a newer one I just helped a buddy install do not have it.
- use P2P connection between NVR and external cams...
Modern NVR like 4xxx-EI/5xxx-EI have support for connecting with external cams using P2P connection (like You connect using DMSS to NVR from outside Your network).. You must enable on external cams P2P support (network menu).. and them on NVR in second network, in camera list click on 'Manual Add', chose 'Register' as Manufacturer, in Registration ID You must put unique camera serial number + fill user/password field..
I don't need no fancy $hit there, just to connect the cams str8 from the nvr's menu........I have no time for workarounds. So this means the model I listed even though has p2p still can't add cams from a different network without a VPN?
Is the TP-Link running as a router or is it in bridge mode?
If it's running as a router you're gonna have a tricky time getting the NVR to see the cameras because they will be on a different subnet.
Every Dahua cam/NVR have P2P, which allows connect to it from apps using P2P...
But only a few models of NVR have reverse option - they can connect to cam using P2P..
This feature is not described in any spec sheet.
From my knowledge it is only available on 4xxx-EI/5xxx-EI...
Would this method still work if I had a dynamic ip? or I'd have to get a ddns and port fwd-ing anyway?
yes, connecting camera over p2p to nvr works with dynamic ip.. no need to ddns or port fwd...
the only requirement which p2p have is good connection..
p2p due how it works don't like packets loss or big amount of retransmissions between parties..
if for some reason p2p will not work (or will work bad) then one of the backup solution Is to use ddns and open port on remote camera side.. second is vpn..
4xxx-EI / 5xxx-EI
I don't known what 4xxxHS is.. but reading spec sheet I known that it is not 4xxx-EI...
Man - call your Dahua seller.. And ask him question - does this NVR will support 'Register' manufacturer / P2P connection to camera in camera registration page? it should power NVR / connect to it and check... or call Dahua support in Your country and ask them that question...
I don't known what 4xxxHS is.. but reading spec sheet I known that it is not 4xxx-EI...
Man - call your Dahua seller.. And ask him question - does this NVR will support 'Register' manufacturer / P2P connection to camera in camera registration page? it should power NVR / connect to it and check... or call Dahua support in Your country and ask them that question...