Four cameras, two locations, one NVR

[raidaru]

4xxx-EI / 5xxx-EI

I don't known what 4xxxHS is.. but reading spec sheet I known that it is not 4xxx-EI...

Man - call your Dahua seller.. And ask him question - does this NVR will support 'Register' manufacturer / P2P connection to camera in camera registration page? it should power NVR / connect to it and check... or call Dahua support in Your country and ask them that question...

All right, I've sent e-mails to romanian Dahua importer, here is his answer : "I am sorry, there is no such recorder. All camera must be in the same network to connect to Dahua recorder." Then I wtote to Dahua UK, here is the answer : "Thanks for your email , Yes you can connect to various sites/cameras globally with Smartpsslite Dmss, Dss pro or express in conjunction with our recorders to find the best model to suit your needs please contact our sales team sales.uk@dahuatech.com,or your distributor, they can best advise you on what model you require." Not the answers I hoped for tbh

 

[steve1225]

All right, I've sent e-mails to romanian Dahua importer, here is his answer : "I am sorry, there is no such recorder. All camera must be in the same network to connect to Dahua recorder." Then I wtote to Dahua UK, here is the answer : "Thanks for your email , Yes you can connect to various sites/cameras globally with Smartpsslite Dmss, Dss pro or express in conjunction with our recorders to find the best model to suit your needs please contact our sales team sales.uk@dahuatech.com,or your distributor, they can best advise you on what model you require." Not the answers I hoped for tbh

they simply don't know about this option on 5xxx-EI.. or don't understand what you ask about?

 

[raidaru]

they simply don't know about this option on 5xxx-EI.. or don't understand what you ask about?

I've just paste what u said,


Hello, I am interested in buying a NVR that can connect to cameras from different locations(networks) without using a port forward or vpn. I wonder if the info below is correct:
- use P2P connection between NVR and external cams...
Modern NVR like 4xxx-EI/5xxx-EI have support for connecting with external cams using P2P connection (like You connect using DMSS to NVR from outside Your network).. You must enable on external cams P2P support (network menu).. and them on NVR in second network, in camera list click on 'Manual Add', chose 'Register' as Manufacturer, in Registration ID You must put unique camera serial number + fill user/password field..

NVR will connect with cam in other network using P2P connection (this is some form of VPN)...



They are tech departament from Dahua, it's strange they wouldn't know about such an important feature but anything possible..... Ima give it a try with a DHI-NVR4216-EI , if it has that feature good, if not.......whatever, I can't find any official info on that feature we've talked about....

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[raidaru]

All right guys, so here is what I'm trying to do, hopefully it works with the gear I already have. I would like some input to how should I configure the modem and router so that I don't have double nat or other issues, I would also like to have a wi-fi network for the Archer C6 to link a smart switch and a smart thermometer in my garage.

 

[TonyR]

Assuming the IP cameras are POE, replace the Archer router with a POE switch, as camera data should not pass through a router anyway.

You don't need a second router (already in the Huawei) but you said you need Wi-Fi so turn the Archer into a wireless access point (AP) with no routing function. Many TP-LINK Archer routers have a AP function, use that OR:

• Assign the router a unique, static IP in the same subnet as the Huawei router's LAN.
• Disable DHCP
• Connect it's LAN port to a LAN port on the Huawei modem/router, do not use the Archer's WAN port.
• Connect the POE switch to the gig switch, not the Huawei modem/router

The above suggestions are illustrated below with a revised version of your drawing:

 

[Underhill]

^^^
I assumed you were talking about 2 locations across the internet.

 

[steve1225]

All right guys, so here is what I'm trying to do, hopefully it works with the gear I already have. I would like some input to how should I configure the modem and router so that I don't have double nat or other issues, I would also like to have a wi-fi network for the Archer C6 to link a smart switch and a smart thermometer in my garage.

Do you use double nat?
why there is second router there?

If both NVR and cameras are in the same network, them simply add those cameras over IP to NVR...
if cameras are hidden behind second router (why???) then You must remove that router, use open ports / port forwarding or use P2P..

I honestly admit that I don't fully understand the essence of the problem here?

 

[TonyR]

^^^
I assumed you were talking about 2 locations across the internet.

I did too until I saw his drawing...which sure looks like one location and one LAN to me.

 

[raidaru]

Assuming the IP cameras are POE, replace the Archer router with a POE switch, as camera data should not pass through a router anyway.

You don't need a second router (already in the Huawei) but you said you need Wi-Fi so turn the Archer into a wireless access point (AP) with no routing function. Many TP-LINK Archer routers have a AP function, use that OR:

• Assign the router a unique, static IP in the same subnet as the Huawei router's LAN.
• Disable DHCP
• Connect it's LAN port to a LAN port on the Huawei modem/router, do not use the Archer's WAN port.
• Connect the POE switch to the gig switch, not the Huawei modem/router

The above suggestions are illustrated below with a revised version of your drawing:

View attachment 207248

Installing the router anywhere outside the garage would be pointless.I need wi-fi in the garage. The cams are PoE but I'm using a 12v power supply that powers everything.

I assumed you were talking about 2 locations across the internet.

Yeah but the other site I'll deal with it next year, winter is already here and like hell Ima do any outdoor work now )

Do you use double nat?
why there is second router there?

If both NVR and cameras are in the same network, them simply add those cameras over IP to NVR...
if cameras are hidden behind second router (why???) then You must remove that router, use open ports / port forwarding or use P2P..

I honestly admit that I don't fully understand the essence of the problem here?

The problem is I also want to have wi-fi in my garage and I have a single network cable that goes in there. I thought of another config, maybe this works or anything else that could provide wi-fi in the garage without a second network cable from the apartament.

 

[steve1225]

Installing the router anywhere outside the garage would be pointless.I need wi-fi in the garage. The cams are PoE but I'm using a 12v power supply that powers everything.View attachment 207273

Yeah but the other site I'll deal with it next year, winter is already here and like hell Ima do any outdoor work now )

The problem is I also want to have wi-fi in my garage and I have a single network cable that goes in there. I thought of another config, maybe this works or anything else that could provide wi-fi in the garage without a second network cable from the apartament.View attachment 207272

OK...
so You have one network...

what is problem / question then?

 

[TonyR]

Installing the router anywhere outside the garage would be pointless.I need wi-fi in the garage. The cams are PoE but I'm using a 12v power supply that powers everything.View attachment 207273

Yeah but the other site I'll deal with it next year, winter is already here and like hell Ima do any outdoor work now )

The problem is I also want to have wi-fi in my garage and I have a single network cable that goes in there. I thought of another config, maybe this works or anything else that could provide wi-fi in the garage without a second network cable from the apartament.View attachment 207272

The camera side is OK.
But don't run the NVR thru the Huawei router, connect the NVR to the Netgear gig switch.

 

[raidaru]

All right, this is the final configuration, a friend of mine that installs cams told me only one port of the modem is gigabit, the rest are pretty much useless like 100 mb/s........

 

[TonyR]

All right, this is the final configuration, a friend of mine that installs cams told me only one port of the modem is gigabit, the rest are pretty much useless like 100 mb/s........ View attachment 207285

FWIW, that's schematically identical to my drawing in post #25 above except you moved the wireless AP to the switch in the garage near the IP cameras.