HA System Recommendations?

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  1. DLONG2

    DLONG2 Getting comfortable

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    Getting disappointed with the HomeSeer/Z-Wave home automation system I had invested in last year. Is there something else based on wireless which is hardier and easier to manage, and which can integrate with Blue Iris, Hue lights, etc.?
     
  2. dmiller

    dmiller Young grasshopper

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    I find Homeseer integration with Blue Iris to be reliable and straightforward. But for someone with no programing background usefully integrating Blue Iris into any HA hub is going to be challenging.
     
  3. smole

    smole n3wb

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    Home Assistant has a steep learning curve.
     
  4. DLONG2

    DLONG2 Getting comfortable

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    The major issue I am having is getting an HS door/window sensor on an outdoors gate to consistently connect to the HS Z-Wave network. Oddly the Tamper status is seen but not always the Open/Closed and battery status. When it works and is opened I can trigger a cloned camera to take a snapshot and email it and push out a notification. Getting repeaters outside has been an issue. The same gate has a cheapie wireless chime sensor attached, and that works well, so I am wondering what other options I might have besides Z-Wave.
     
  5. smole

    smole n3wb

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    Take a look at WiFi sensors - Sonoff (with tasmota firmware) and Shelly.

    You'd need a stable wifi router/ap like ubiquity's ac lite/ac lr access point models.
     
  6. dmiller

    dmiller Young grasshopper

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    Is the connection being made with version 5 z-wave devices? I set up a system with a detached garage perhaps 50 feet from the house and it worked without problem. This is on an all z-wave 5 system. But there are probably multiple paths between the house and garage. I have never looked at the z-wave paths because that system has worked without issue.

    I've never done a sparse z-wave system. The systems I have done have a lot of mains routing devices. So I'm not sure how z-wave works with just a few always on devices. Wifi might work better with only a few devices.
     
  7. DLONG2

    DLONG2 Getting comfortable

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    I have a Ubiquiti network with APs, but I am needing a battery-operated passive magnetic switch/sensor, similar to what the HomeSeer uses (HS-DS100+). The Sonoff looks to need local power.

    dmiller: I am using HS3 with the SmartStick+ USB interface, and the HS-DS100+ door/window sensors.
     
  8. dmiller

    dmiller Young grasshopper

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    How many router z-wave nodes besides the smartstick?

    BTW, I don't think the tamper sensor report is designed to automatically reset to off/null.
     
  9. DLONG2

    DLONG2 Getting comfortable

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    I have just a handful of z-wave door/window sensors, and only the one on the gate is currently in use. I also have a z-wave AC switch which I use as a repeater outdoors to try to extend the range to the gate. The PC was relocated to the middle of the home; I know I need more repeaters; getting a consistent signal to the gate has been an issue with the brick facade and distance...
     
  10. JNDATHP

    JNDATHP Pulling my weight

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    @DLONG2, as you know we have an extensive HS3 and Z-Wave setup. I would try this:

    1. Z-Net
    2. Ecolink Door/window sensors. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N5HB4U5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
    3. BI plugin from beerygaz.

    We have the above sensor on an outdoor gate, taped shut to keep the snow and rain out and it performs flawlessly.

    We also use SDJ-Health to monitor our battery powered devices and this seems to help quite a bit. The only ones that it doesn’t catch properly are the Zooz sensors.

    We have about 50 HS-DW100 dimmers, 50 battery powered sensors, mostly Ecolink (the best in my opinion), a few Kwikset locks and some plugin dimmers from DragonTech.

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    JKChad n3wb

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    Dlong, I fought a similar battle until I ran across a guy who suggested using a z-wave dry contact sensor hard wired to a overhead roll up door sensor. I have the dry contact sensor in my garage within a good range of the z-wave network in my house and the wires ran outside to my gate. I create a virtual device for gate status and trigger my PTZ presets when the gate is opened. If this is something that might work for you, I can get you specific model info of the parts I used.
     
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  12. DLONG2

    DLONG2 Getting comfortable

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    Thanks JKChad. I'd be interested if it's not a lot of trouble.
     
  13. danbutter

    danbutter Getting the hang of it

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    HomeSeer HS-FLS100+ Z-Wave Plus Floodlight Sensor – HomeSeer Store

    I use this outside and it is pretty nice in function and could also help your range issue depending on placement.

    A sparse zwave network is going to perform poorly so get some outdoor devices and get as close as you can.

    If you wanted to change directions I would suggest an alarm sensor. They have much better range!
    Many homeauto systems have a way to integrate an alarm.
     
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    JNDATHP Pulling my weight

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    @DLONG2 - you may want to try a Z-Net. Great range compared to a smart stick.
     
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    DLONG2 Getting comfortable

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    Thanks for all your suggestions. Perhaps a Z-Net unit is the way to go. The gate sensor has been working well after I had installed a power switch unit outside under the eaves where the Christmas light usually plug into.
     
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  16. The Profit

    The Profit n3wb

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    I would second the z-net suggestion. I’m currently using two of them in a 3500 sqft home and five of them in a 21,000 sqft business building without any issue. The other key is to have several powered devices setup to create a strong mesh network before adding battery devices.


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