Hello All!

[Manimal]

Hi all,

I have been lurking for a while and have read through the wiki and cliff notes along with the other copious amounts of material on this site (and its still overwhelming)...

I am in the planning stages for an outdoor/indoor camera setup (mostly outdoor).

I have a QNAP NAS that I plan on running QVR Pro.

I would like to get some reccomendations on which POE (or POE+) switch you guys like, I was thinking a 24 port so I can use it for other things apart from cameras.

Also what would be a good outdoor camera to start with, I would like it to have both decent day and night picture if possible (I also like the bullet form factor over the turret).

Thank you in advance,
Manimal

 

[looney2ns]

I like Netgears Pro Safe line of switches, always had good luck with them.
Any of the new 5442 series of cam from Dahua will perform very well at night.
See this:

 

[TonyR]

Welcome to IPCT !

 

[sebastiantombs]

 

[Manimal]

I am still trying to figure out which switch I want to get, most of the cheaper switches i am finding are POE not POE+. Is POE+ really nessessary? How often are you finding the need for POE+ powers?

 

[sebastiantombs]

It's not necessarily the need for PoE+ but it does provide safe overhead in power capabilities as well as some future proofing as things change. The old rule of thumb that bigger is better sort of applies here.

Also the less expensive, lower power budget, switches can have problems coming back up from a power failure while under load, especially the load at night when IR lights are on in the cameras.

 

[Manimal]

What are the thoughts on this Switch? Does it matter that it is not a gigabit switch?

IPCamPower Switch

I was going to plug this directly into the QNAP NAS and the QNAP to my home network.

 

[sebastiantombs]

A gig uplink is fine. Cameras won't need a gig for a long time to come. They simply don't use that much bandwidth. Even 100Mb/ps is a little bit of overkill for them to say the least.

IPCamPower uses a transformer power supply, at least mine seems to, which is way more robust than the switching supplies used in lower end switches.

 

[Manimal]

Would this be a good starter set for cameras?

Ebay Camera Listing for 10 Dahua IPC-HFW2431RN-ZS-IRE6 for $400.

Should this be avoided or can I reflash them? Or should I be looking at the 5442 cameras?

 

[Mike]

What are the thoughts on this Switch? Does it matter that it is not a gigabit switch?

IPCamPower Switch

I was going to plug this directly into the QNAP NAS and the QNAP to my home network.

We also sell IPCamPower switches here - IPCamPower POE Switch (4, 8, 16 & 24-port) | IP Cam Talk Store

 

[Manimal]

We also sell IPCamPower switches here - IPCamPower POE Switch (4, 8, 16 & 24-port) | IP Cam Talk Store

Thanks Mike! I will deffinately keep that in mind when the boss give me the okay to start purchasing things...

 

[sebastiantombs]

Those cameras have a 1/3" sensor and are 4MP. If you need a decent low light, or no light, video they will not be good at all. Have a look in the Wiki, in the blue bar at the top of the page. The cameras mentioned in the Cliff Notes are a generation old at this point but are still far better choices, especially in low light situations. The current favorite, here, is the Dahua 5442 series. They are 4MP but have a much larger sensor, 1/1.8".

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[Manimal]

Those cameras have a 1/3" sensor and are 4MP. If you need a decent low light, or no light, video they will not be good at all. Have a look in the Wiki, in the blue bar at the top of the page. The cameras mentioned in the Cliff Notes are a generation old at this point but are still far better choices, especially in low light situations. The current favorite, here, is the Dahua 5442 series. They are 4MP but have a much larger sensor, 1/1.8".

Review - Loryata (Dahua OEM) IPC-T5442T-ZE varifocal Turret

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IPC-T5442T-ZE Varifocal from @EMPIRETECANDY 4MP WDR Turret Varifocal Network Camera Review unit courtesy of Andy (@EMPIRETECANDY) in exchange for a fair and honest review. Andy's ipcamtalk store: link Andy's AliExpress store: link Andy's Amazon store: link Price Approximately US $200.00...

ipcamtalk.com

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All, thanks to Andy (@EMPIRETECANDY ) we have a new 4MP AI camera for testing. This camera has been provided by Andy in exchange for a fair and honest review. This camera is using the OEM model number of IPC-B5442-ZE which is the equivalent of the Dahua IPC-HFW5442-ZE for reference. The IPC-B...

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ipcamtalk.com

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Review-OEM IPC-T2231RP-ZS 2mp Varifocal Turret Starlight Camera

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Again courtesy of @EMPIRETECANDY EmpireTech Andy we have a new cam to look over. Its a new model in Dahua's new Lite H265 Series of cam's. Available for purchase here: Aliexpress.com - Online Shopping for Electronics, Fashion, Home & Garden, Toys & Sports, Automobiles and more Price is approx...

ipcamtalk.com

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ipcamtalk.com

Less expensive models -

Budget Dahua Cams or china alternatives under $100?

Well here we go. I dont see anywhere more approriate to discuss this. Ive been messing around with putting together a cctv system for close to 3 years now. Ive bought everything i needed and also bought 2 cheap cams from a third party seller on walmart. Those cams cost me a grand total of $50...

ipcamtalk.com

I guess I am also going to have to go trough that list and see which cameras are compatible with QNAP QVR Pro.

 

[sebastiantombs]

All of those cameras are ONVIF compliant and have RTSP streams, if that helps.