I need a suggestion for a mount/junction box.

[ingeborgdot]

I know that one of the guru's on here have done some crazy things with mounts, so I'm on here asking if anyone has a picture, or a suggestion of what I can do. I am going to use a turret with the PFB203 mount. It is easily attached, but there is a problem that the bottom part of the mount is left open.
The camera that was up there was just attached with 2 screws as you can see the screw holes. It is the rusty white bullet, with a round junction/mount. The advantage of the bullet is how it can be maneuvered, but I just like the turret, so I'm staying with that, and trying to find a feasible way to mount it. I'm even trying to see if anyone could weld more onto this so the plate would cover the entire backside of the mount.
Any ideas would be welcomed, well, almost any.
Thanks.

 

[mat200]

hi @ingeborgdot

if you want, you can but a bead of silicone caulk to cover that, otherwise as long as you have a little di-electric gel in the RJ45 boot when you connect the cat5e/6 plug and wrap that with silicone stretch tape or coax seal, it should be good. ( I also use tape on the DC barrel connector )



update:

Put the pigtail into the wall mount, otherwise you're not getting the full value of the wall mount / junction box

 

[ingeborgdot]

I think I really should just get some type of junction box for the cabling, just to be on the safe side. I could have a separate box and run the cables into that to help insure there is a water tight seal.
Maybe I could do something like that. But if the cabling where the 2 cables tie into one another is sealed, will there be a problem if moisture gets inside the back lower 3/4".
I may concerned over nothing. The camera itself is sealed pretty water tight.

 

[sebastiantombs]

Instead of silicon seal I'd suggest Duct Seal. It stays pliable so it can be removed if necessary. In terms of mounting the bracket, a couple of beam clamps to clamp onto that angle iron will let you use a custom mount, kludged mount, for the PFB203.

 

[ingeborgdot]

I have seen duct seal. That would be an option for sure.
As for the beam clamps, I'm not sure what you mean for that. I know what beam clamps are, just not sure how? Do you have any pictures of something that I could see. I'm kind of a visual kind of guy.

 

[Rob2020]

Assuming I am correctly understanding your issue;

I would go up to the dollar store, buy some kind of small white/clear poly propylene or similar hard plastic cutting board (like used in a kitchen) trim it about an inch or so bigger than the back of the 203 mount, and mount that to the final product. You could make it look nice with proper trimming.

Coax-Seal tape for bonus points.

 

[fergenheimer]

I used a piece of 6" purlin to extend down as seen in the picture. I had the 203 mount there and it stuck down below the horizontal purlin much like your angle iron. It beat welding and the purlin was on hand scrap. Please ignore the mess.

 

[ingeborgdot]

Assuming I am correctly understanding your issue;

I would go up to the dollar store, buy some kind of small white/clear poly propylene or similar hard plastic cutting board (like used in a kitchen) trim it about an inch or so bigger than the back of the 203 mount, and mount that to the final product. You could make it look nice with proper trimming.

Coax-Seal tape for bonus points.

So, I think I got you. Mount the203 to the cutting board. Have it extend an inch or so past the 203 to help seal the back, take the cutting board, and the part of the mount that the 203 rests on, and screw it all the way through the board, and through the metal. Fasten the mount to the attachment part that is attached to the board and metal, tighten, and you have a seal. Is that what you mean? Sounds easy enough.

 

[ingeborgdot]

I used a piece of 6" purlin to extend down as seen in the picture. I had the 203 mount there and it stuck down below the horizontal purlin much like your angle iron. It beat welding and the purlin was on hand scrap. Please ignore the mess.

I'm having a tough time seeing what you did, but I bet it isn't going anywhere.

 

[ingeborgdot]

Here is what I have planned for the connectors. I may use a little larger one, but this is the idea using one I had laying around. This should make a good seal. Probably better than it really needs, but I would rather over do it, especially where it is going to be.

 

[mat200]

Here is what I have planned for the connectors. I may use a little larger one, but this is the idea using one I had laying around. This should make a good seal. Probably better than it really needs, but I would rather over do it, especially where it is going to be.

FYI - all of that can easily fit inside the wall mount PFB204W or PFB203W iirc ..

 

[fergenheimer]

Ingeborgdot, I removed the pfb203 mount and used it elsewhere. All you see is the IPC-5442TM-AS-LED camera mounted to scrap purlin. A cutting board will work just as well unless that angle iron gets hot. Note what Mat200 says that the cables will all tuck neatly up into the pfb203 cavity and the electrical box will not be needed.

 

[ingeborgdot]

Well, I guess, now that it will be sealed, I could do that. I was so worried about the back not being sealed, I didn't even think about that. That's why I come on here, to pic peoples brains. I have put my cables in there endless times. Duh.
Thanks guys.

 

[fergenheimer]

I have an endless supply of dirt daubers so sealing up nooks and crannies is important! Good luck!

 

[sebastiantombs]

Simply get two beam clamps with 1/4-20 threaded holes on the flat potion from you local electrical supply house. Clamp the to the angle iron. Use the 1/4-20 holes on the flats to mount you cutting board, wood board or a piece of 1/8" flat metal to them. The camera on that flat surface, whatever you use.

 

[Rob2020]

So, I think I got you. Mount the203 to the cutting board. Have it extend an inch or so past the 203 to help seal the back, take the cutting board, and the part of the mount that the 203 rests on, and screw it all the way through the board, and through the metal. Fasten the mount to the attachment part that is attached to the board and metal, tighten, and you have a seal. Is that what you mean? Sounds easy enough.

There are probably several approaches, my thinking is to fasten the mount to the trimmed cutting board and then fasten the c-board to the metal, whatever looks doable. Seeing it up close is likely going to answer what will and will not work. Coax Seal tape is amazing, very pliable and comes in strips on a roll. I am confident no moisture is going to get through with coax seal around any joints or crevices. I use the Permatex grease and wrap the connections with coax-seal as recommended on the board here.