In the market for 2 high end bullet cameras and 1 turret camera.

[sunny0101786]

Please advise me what cameras I should buy? Going to use them for my house two bullet cameras for both front corners cross (X) direction and Turret in middle of the door entrance. 2 bullet cameras and 1 Turret. High end cameras with built in mic.

 

[wittaj]

What is your definition of high end? To some people that is $80, to others it might be $300, and others are in the thousands?

See this thread for the most commonly recommended/suggested cameras based on distance to IDENTIFY, which represent what most feel are the best overall value in terms of cost and performance day and night:

The Importance of Focal Length over MP in camera selection

At the urging of several folks here, I created a thread to show the importance of focal length and how focal length can be more important than megapixels (MP). I mentioned some of this in the post regarding The Hookup’s latest video demonstrating different cameras, including one sold from a...

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[sunny0101786]

I'm looking at right now IPC-HFW71242H-Z-X

 

[sunny0101786]

& IPC-HFW7842H-Z-S2

 

[wittaj]

Chasing MP usually isn't the answer.

@Parley is a well respected member here and is often our tester for these newer higher MP cameras and he wasn't impressed with it, at least enough for higher cost:

Dahua Wizmind Series X 12mp vs 8mp

Which camera would get the better image quality? 12MP has a 1/1.7" sensor and 8MP has a 1/1.8" and both max out at 16k kbps bitrate, which probably will not be feasible when any AI feature is activated, maybe like 8k-12k kbps would be doable. Conditions would mostly be indoor white lights with a...

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This table in the post I linked in Post #2 is still holding true on MP versus sensor size, especially as it relates to night time performance:

 

[sunny0101786]

4k high resolutions. Latest tech etc. more features inbuilt mic.

 

[wittaj]

4k high resolutions. Latest tech etc. more features inbuilt mic.

Keep in mind many here are finding that the 4K cameras have a very small focus depth and anything shorter of it or longer than it results in blurry images and video.

The 4K cameras on the 1/1.2" sensor are great and get color in lower light conditions, but many are starting to relegate those to overview duty instead of IDENTIFY duty.

Many still feel 4MP on the 1/1.8" sensor is the sweet point for these types of cameras and the 5442 turret series has built-in mics.

 

[sunny0101786]

Chasing MP usually isn't the answer.

@Parley is a well respected member here and is often our tester for these newer higher MP cameras and he wasn't impressed with it, at least enough for higher cost:

Dahua Wizmind Series X 12mp vs 8mp

Which camera would get the better image quality? 12MP has a 1/1.7" sensor and 8MP has a 1/1.8" and both max out at 16k kbps bitrate, which probably will not be feasible when any AI feature is activated, maybe like 8k-12k kbps would be doable. Conditions would mostly be indoor white lights with a...

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This table in the post I linked in Post #2 is still holding true on MP versus sensor size, especially as it relates to night time performance:

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So what is the best suggestion?

 

[wittaj]

The cameras I linked in Post 2 above that represent the most commonly recommended/suggested cameras based on distance to IDENTIFY, which represent what most feel are the best overall value in terms of cost and performance day and night:

The Importance of Focal Length over MP in camera selection

At the urging of several folks here, I created a thread to show the importance of focal length and how focal length can be more important than megapixels (MP). I mentioned some of this in the post regarding The Hookup’s latest video demonstrating different cameras, including one sold from a...

ipcamtalk.com

 

[Parley]

Chasing MP usually isn't the answer.

@Parley is a well respected member here and is often our tester for these newer higher MP cameras and he wasn't impressed with it, at least enough for higher cost:

Dahua Wizmind Series X 12mp vs 8mp

Which camera would get the better image quality? 12MP has a 1/1.7" sensor and 8MP has a 1/1.8" and both max out at 16k kbps bitrate, which probably will not be feasible when any AI feature is activated, maybe like 8k-12k kbps would be doable. Conditions would mostly be indoor white lights with a...

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This table in the post I linked in Post #2 is still holding true on MP versus sensor size, especially as it relates to night time performance:

View attachment 170827

That camera did not work out for me. I replaced it with a Dahua 4k bullet camera that has the 1/1.2" sensor. I bought it off of Andy's refurbished list and I am very happy with it in my application.

 

[sunny0101786]

That camera did not work out for me. I replaced it with a Dahua 4k bullet camera that has the 1/1.2" sensor. I bought it off of Andy's refurbished list and I am very happy with it in my application.

What model worked out best for you?

 

[wittaj]

I suspect it is the 4K/X referenced in the thread above.

https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-Full-Color-Weatherproof-Detection-IPC-Color4K-X/dp/B099R9WG9M/ref=sr_1_20?imprToken=eNnu.Pmf5hsW5hcTVECAQg&linkCode=w61&m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1648168438&redirect=true&s=merchant-items&slotNum=0&sr=1-20&tag=ipctk-20

 

[sunny0101786]

I suspect it is the 4K/X referenced in the thread above.

https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-Full-Color-Weatherproof-Detection-IPC-Color4K-X/dp/B099R9WG9M/ref=sr_1_20?imprToken=eNnu.Pmf5hsW5hcTVECAQg&linkCode=w61&m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1648168438&redirect=true&s=merchant-items&slotNum=0&sr=1-20&tag=ipctk-20

What is the Dahua model number?

 

[wittaj]

That is the Dahua OEM sold by trusted vendor @EMPIRETECANDY here.

The Dahua model number of that is DH-IPC-HFW5849T1-ASE-LED

 

[wittaj]

Here is the review thread on it:

Worlds First Review - Dahua - IPC-Color4K-X / DH-IPC-HFW5849T1-ASE-LED - Full Color 4K Camera

Intro I’m excited to be doing another Worlds First Review. this time as I mentioned in the full color thread, I’ve been testing the new Dahua full color 4K camera. This was provided courtesy of @EMPIRETECANDY for a fair, honest, no holds barred, unbiased review. I’ll attempt to answer any and...

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[Parley]

I suspect it is the 4K/X referenced in the thread above.

https://www.amazon.com/EmpireTech-Full-Color-Weatherproof-Detection-IPC-Color4K-X/dp/B099R9WG9M/ref=sr_1_20?imprToken=eNnu.Pmf5hsW5hcTVECAQg&linkCode=w61&m=A329YQ83EBQGJF&marketplaceID=ATVPDKIKX0DER&qid=1648168438&redirect=true&s=merchant-items&slotNum=0&sr=1-20&tag=ipctk-20

Yes, it is, but I have the 6mm version which is not the best for every situation.

 

[Ri22o]

Please advise me what cameras I should buy? Going to use them for my house two bullet cameras for both front corners cross (X) direction and Turret in middle of the door entrance. 2 bullet cameras and 1 Turret. High end cameras with built in mic.

What are your mounting heights?
What is your ID distance?
What ambient light do you have?

See my thread below for captures from my cameras with details on install location.

"I want 2.8mm cameras everywhere to see everything..." - This is why you need specific FOVs with purposeful focal lengths.

I have gained a lot of knowledge since I signed up and wanted to share my experience and examples of improvements and changes for others who are coming from a "I want 2.8mm cameras everywhere to see everything" system mentality. My ongoing "build/looking for advice" thread can be found here...

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