IPC-HDW4421EM-AS Turret Cam

[tygger]

Any one experience with this Dahua cam, IPC-HDW4421EM-AS?

I was trying to compare it to the IPC-HDW4431C-A (which is similar to the 4421C-A) that many here are using. Looks like the only difference is the 4421EM-AS has a 50m rated IR and a built-in SD card slot vs the 4431C-A/4421C-A's 30m rated IR and no built-in SD card slot. The 4421EM-AS is also listed about $30 more.

It's currently showing not available, http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dahua-Stellar-Camera-H2-65-4Mp-IPC-HFW4431K-AS-I6-IP-camera-Support-POE-Micro-SD/32689673194.html?spm=2114.13010308.0.44.4Sa3yA

Also, Dahua's website does not have any information on the IPC-HDW4431C-A and IPC-HDW4421C-A, but they do for the IPC-HDW4421EM-AS

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/products/ipc-hdw4421em-as-1204.html

 

[Del Boy]

Ignore the 30m / 50m IR rating. It's rubbish.

You are getting a built-in SD Card slot extra, not worth $30 IMO but might be for some users.

 

[GuitarKin]

Hello!


4431 is an eco savvy 3 series , and while the 4421 is an eco savvy 2 series. 4431 offer h265 package and slightly faster frame rate than 4421. You can find IPC-HDW4431C-A on here http://www.dahuatech.com/product_detail-4024.html.

 

[tygger]

Ignore the 30m / 50m IR rating. It's rubbish.

You are getting a built-in SD Card slot extra, not worth $30 IMO but might be for some users.

Agreed, esp if that's the only difference. So difficult to find info on these things... Thanks!

 

[tygger]

Hello!


4431 is an eco savvy 3 series , and while the 4421 is an eco savvy 2 series. 4431 offer h265 package and slightly faster frame rate than 4421. You can find IPC-HDW4431C-A on here http://www.dahuatech.com/product_detail-4024.html.

Interesting. Didn't know Dahua had another official site. The Ecco Savvy 3 series isn't listed on the English site.

 

[tygger]

And the seller just got back to me saying there are no differences between the two...

 

[Del Boy]

Yes I think it's same as Hikvision

21 means the "Western Stuff" aka 2xx2, 31 means the "Chinese Domestic stuff" aka 2xx5/3xx5

 

[GuitarKin]

Interesting. Didn't know Dahua had another official site. The Ecco Savvy 3 series isn't listed on the English site.

You can find Eco Savvy 3 series on Dahua english site downloading newest ip cam cataloque.

 

[Anto]

And the seller just got back to me saying there are no differences between the two...

Buyer beware from that seller...he is very unprofessional resorting to name calling of his customer.

 

[g_phill]

I just received mine. I purchased from this guy http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dahua-4MP-HD-WDR-Network-Small-IR-Dome-Camera-IPC-HDW4421EM-AS-built-in-mic-poe/32612144529.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.53.oLYko0

My dealings with him were very good. Free shipping with DHL and I had the camera about 1 week after I placed the order.

 

[Anto]

I just received mine. I purchased from this guy http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Dahua-4MP-HD-WDR-Network-Small-IR-Dome-Camera-IPC-HDW4421EM-AS-built-in-mic-poe/32612144529.html?spm=2114.13010608.0.53.oLYko0

My dealings with him were very good. Free shipping with DHL and I had the camera about 1 week after I placed the order.

Did the model you receive [FONT=&quot]IPC-HDW4421EM-AS have a built in Micro SD Card slot? If so was the SD Card easy to install?[/FONT]

 

[g_phill]

Yes has the Micro SD card slot. Compared to my other camera which is an IPC-HDBW4421R-AS it was much harder. I had to unscrew the board which had the camera lens attached. It was quite fiddly holding all the bits while I put it in. Saying that it still probably only took me 5-10mins to install the micro SD Card. I posted pics here https://www.ipcamtalk.com/showthread.php/13003-Ipc-hdw4421emp-as

 

[tygger]

Based on g_phill's other thread, the Eco Savvy 2 (4421EM-AS) has a metal base, similar to the Hik's base where once you lock them down, the camera isn't moving anywhere. On the Eco Savvy 3 (4431EM), the base is plastic and the camera can be moved with little effort, even after its been secured into the base.

I took a look at Dahua's catalog, thanks GuitarKin for pointing it out, a noticed the lux rating on the Eco Savvy 3 turrets were much better than the 2's (if we trust the listed ratings).

Then I also noticed they have a "starlight" version: IPC-HDW4231EM-AS but was not able to find it on Aliexpress. This may have already been discussed here, but it's late and I haven't searched yet.

 

[Del Boy]

It makes me still believe it is 4431 Chinese and 4421 English/Worldwide just like the 2xx2 and 2xx5 of Hikvision.

 

[tygger]

According to their catalog, they're different camera lines, with encoding being the biggest difference. Is one targeted for China va Worldwide... I dunno? I find it interesting that some of the 4421 cameras have metal bases and some are plastic. My 4431 is plastic.

http://www.dahuasecurity.com/download/2016_ip_video_product_selection_3_7.28_low_.pdf

 

[Del Boy]

Dahua numbers are so confusing.