IPC-HFW5231E-Z12 LPR from 137 feet

[mmdb]

i really dont care that much for daytime pic q. because i have other camera turret 5231 looking almost the same way . here is what looks like at night .
looks like with smartpss im limited with options ,so how can i change the settings with nvr 5216p

 

[bigredfish]

@mmdb You need to turn the Exposure way down. You have to login to the camera itself and make the adjustments there, not the NVR interface which is what your previous picture looks like

 

[mmdb]

Thx bigredfish ...and how do i loginto camera directly ?

 

[bigredfish]

By using the camera's IP address. Much like you do the NVR, for example if the NVR is 192.168.1.108, the camera IP will be similar but different last number. You may have to log into your router and see what IP has been assigned to the camera...

 

[mmdb]

big thx bigredfish... will do ass soon as i get back to where cameras are outside of town...

 

[nbstl68]

Has anyone tried the newer IPC-HFW5231E-Z12E version of this camera yet for this? I was thinking of getting that one if the price diff is negligible. The specs appear almost identical other than the design & IR placement so I assume it would work the same but I should never assume with gray market camera models.

 

[crc2004]

Has anyone tried the newer IPC-HFW5231E-Z12E version of this camera yet for this? I was thinking of getting that one if the price diff is negligible. The specs appear almost identical other than the design & IR placement so I assume it would work the same but I should never assume with gray market camera models.

Nothing wrong with "gray market" if the seller stands behind the product. Of course returning a unit to China can be troublesome. Do you have an NVR that will support EPOE?

Dahua Technology Launches ePoE IP System - Dahua Technology

 

[nbstl68]

Totally agree. No issues with the stuff I have from Andy so far and can't afford or even get some of the same cams in the U.S.
No EPOE NVR yet nor a need for it. I just figured if price was similar, go with the newer technology just in case.
Not sure why they changed the front face design and lens \ IR placement.

 

[crc2004]

Totally agree. No issues with the stuff I have from Andy so far and can't afford or even get some of the same cams in the U.S.
No EPOE NVR yet nor a need for it. I just figured if price was similar, go with the newer technology just in case.
Not sure why they changed the front face design and lens \ IR placement.

Hope someone buys and compares the IPC-HFW5231E-Z12E to the IPC-HFW5231E-Z12.

 

[bigredfish]

@bigredfish That looks great! Please share your settings once you're done tweaking it.

Unfortunately those settings didnt hold up due to the Dahua focus shift problem when it switched from Day to Night. Which really sucks as it was looking pretty damn good. Im running on a POE NVR remotely so even if I knew how to implement that code that corrects for this problem (I dont) I dont think that's possible... hmmmmm

So I'm going to have to try a universal full-time setting that will work with both Day and Night.

I dont suppose Dahua has a firmware fix for this PIA yet?

 

[Big Ry]

I would love to use one of these but unfortunately in my state we only have rear license plates so it would take two.

Why would having only a rear license plate require two cameras, but having a front license plate in addition to rear require only one camera? Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?

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[achalmersman]

Because if the car comes towards the camera you will never see the rear plate. So you have to have a 2nd camera pointing the other way so that as the car goes AWAY from the camera you catch the plate

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[Big Ry]

Because if the car comes towards the camera you will never see the rear plate. So you have to have a 2nd camera pointing the other way so that as the car goes AWAY from the camera you catch the plate

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That would be a reason to have two cameras if your state has dual plates, which makes sense. But that's not what the original post is saying. The original post is saying just the opposite, that you only need one camera if you have two plates but you need two if you have one plate. Makes no sense.

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[achalmersman]

That would be a reason to have two cameras if your state has dual plates, which makes sense. But that's not what the original post is saying. The original post is saying just the opposite, that you only need one camera if you have two plates but you need two if you have one plate. Makes no sense.

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That is correct. I'm not sure what is so confusing. If your on the side of the road looking to the right and a car comes towards you and passes and you never move your head how are you going to see the plate on the rear of the car? You need 2 cameras.

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[Big Ry]

What is correct? I'm making two separate opposing statements. They both can't be correct. What you seem to keep asserting is what is logical and also what i have always assumed to be true. But the original post is saying the opposite of what you are saying and what i originally thought, so i was trying to figure out what that person meant by his post. Like if there was something about setting up these cams that I wasn't understanding that would make it so you would need less cameras if you have more plates (or perhaps just specifically if you have front plates). It didn't make since to me why you would only need a single camera in that case, so i was asking since I'm in the market for a LPR cam and i live in a 2 plate state. I'd love to only buy 1 camera if that's all that's needed.

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[achalmersman]

What is correct? I'm making two separate opposing statements. They both can't be correct. What you seem to keep asserting is what is logical and also what i have always assumed to be true. But the original post is saying the opposite of what you are saying and what i originally thought, so i was trying to figure out what that person meant by his post. Like if there was something about setting up these cams that I wasn't understanding that would make it so you would need less cameras if you have more plates (or perhaps just specifically if you have front plates). It didn't make since to me why you would only need a single camera in that case, so i was asking since I'm in the market for a LPR cam and i live in a 2 plate state. I'd love to only buy 1 camera if that's all that's needed.

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Post # 52 you questioned the statement that a state that only has plates on the rear of the car requires 2 cameras. You asked "what am I missing". I explained why a state that only has plates in the rear of the car (like my state) requires 2 cameras. Maybe you already understood, but your post #52 seemed like a question as to why you need 2 cameras in this situation.

Edit: you usually DO need less cameras if you have front plates. You can catch the front plate of cars coming, and the rear plate if cars going.

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[Big Ry]

Post # 52 you questioned the statement that a state that only has plates on the rear of the car requires 2 cameras. You asked "what am I missing". I explained why a state that only has plates in the rear of the car (like my state) requires 2 cameras. Maybe you already understood, but your post #52 seemed like a question as to why you need 2 cameras in this situation.

Edit: you usually DO need less cameras if you have front plates. You can catch the front plate of cars coming, and the rear plate if cars going.

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Your post doesn't explain how or why you would need two LPR cams in a state with only rear plates, nor do you address how one single LPR cam is capable of reading both front and rear plates in a dual plate state (unless the implication in the original post is that rear plates don't need to be read for some reason?). Unless this cam is PTZ and is capable of following a plate, i don't see how one cam could possible capture both the front and rear plates on a vehicle... unless you live in a cul de sac. I live on a tight one way city street, so with one cam I'm either capturing the front plate or the rear plate. I can't do both unless this cam has special features I'm unaware of. And as far as rear plate states, i still don't see why two cams are needed here for the rear plate, when they're not needed in dual plate states.

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[achalmersman]

Your post doesn't explain how or why you would need two LPR cams in a state with only rear plates, nor do you address how one single LPR cam is capable of reading both front and rear plates in a dual plate state (unless the implication in the original post is that rear plates don't need to be read for some reason?). Unless this cam is PTZ and is capable of following a plate, i don't see how one cam could possible capture both the front and rear plates on a vehicle... unless you live in a cul de sac. I live on a tight one way city street, so with one cam I'm either capturing the front plate or the rear plate. I can't do both unless this cam has special features I'm unaware of. And as far as rear plate states, i still don't see why two cams are needed here for the rear plate, when they're not needed in dual plate states.

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Man I dont know what to say. You do realize that the plates on dual plate states are the same right? Yes the car has 2 but you only need to read 1.

What do you mean I didn't explain why you need 2 cameras if you only have rear plates. I did. I used the "standing on the side of the road looking right" anology and you said you understood.

Do you not understand that in a state that only has rear plates that if your looking at the road on an angle you are NOT going to see the plates of cars approaching that camera? Therefore you need a camera for both directions because you can ONLY capture plates while the car is traveling AWAY from the camera. That way no matter which direction traffic is going you will catch the rear plate.

Thats it. If you still dont understand I'm sorry but I cant help any further.

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[Big Ry]

Man I dont know what to say. You do realize that the plates on dual plate states are the same right? Yes the car has 2 but you only need to read 1.

What do you mean I didn't explain why you need 2 cameras if you only have rear plates. I did. I used the "standing on the side of the road looking right" anology and you said you understood.

Do you not understand that in a state that only has rear plates that if your looking at the road on an angle you are NOT going to see the plates of cars approaching that camera? Therefore you need a camera for both directions because you can ONLY capture plates while the car is traveling AWAY from the camera. That way no matter which direction traffic is going you will catch the rear plate.

Thats it. If you still dont understand I'm sorry but I cant help any further.

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So you mean to say that this strictly applies to two way roads, something you failed to say and only assumed was understood. Not to mention, you're not even looking at a single vehicle at a time but rather going by the "take whatever [plate] i can get" attitude, which i think kind of defeats the purpose of having LPR cams... Especially if you live in the city where you can't always rely on all plates being in vehicles.

I took the original post as meaning something about the tuning of the cams, which i don't know much about yet, not about cam placement. And there was no mention of the type of street at any point, so naturally I assumed it applied to any situation. So i was trying to figure out if i could save money by only buying one cam. Though now it doesn't seem like that's a good idea.

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[achalmersman]

So you mean to say that this strictly applies to two way roads, something you failed to say and only assumed was understood. Not to mention, you're not even looking at a single vehicle at a time but rather going by the "take whatever [plate] i can get" attitude, which i think kind of defeats the purpose of having LPR cams... Especially if you live in the city where you can't always rely on all plates being in vehicles.

I took the original post as meaning something about the tuning of the cams, which i don't know much about yet, not about cam placement. And there was no mention of the type of street at any point, so naturally I assumed it applied to any situation. So i was trying to figure out if i could save money by only buying one cam. Though now it doesn't seem like that's a good idea.

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Well 2 way streets are 99.9% of the roads around me so I guess yea....i assumed that.... I do look at a single vehicle at a time or at least a 2 lane width Field of View I should say. I also am guilty of "every plate I can get" mentality. Why wouldnt I want every plate that comes and goes on my or my churches or my dads property? Me next "phase" is to set up 2 cams on my road to catch every single plate that drives by my house. That way next time my mailbox gets creamed I can actually give the police some usefull info.

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