JFK Who Really Killed Him?

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To all my US friends on this forum and anyone else who wants to chip in...

What are you thoughts on the assassination? Do you think it was Lee Harvey? CIA? FBI? or Another?

I have watched more documentaries, films, read books on the subject that I can even remember and from both points of view I can see how it could be "LHO" and how it couldn't!

What are your feelings on this? I don't want to cause any offense I'm truly fascinated as to was it him or another(s)

The conspiracy theory nuts do get proven wrong with a lot of their facts but the some credible experts do make me think... "I just don't know" I'm no marksman or sharpshooter so I wouldn't know if he could of made that shot at least twice?
 

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LOL can’t resist.

No idea who was behind it, but three pieces of information have always made me go hmmmmm…

1) the motion of the head in the Zapruder film
2) the pristine bullet
And this interview.
Skip to 9:40 and then again to 25:30
 
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What are the odds of the shooter being assassinated 2 days later, then his assassin dying in prison 3-1/2 years later? Followed by the RFK assassination a few years after that?
 

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Doc McClelland comes across as a straight talking Texas doctor. He was by all accounts a modest and respected physician. He didn’t try and make money off of the situation. AND he was 12 inches from Kennedy’s head in the trauma room. Parkland was/is the major trauma hospital in Dallas, they saw/see a LOT of gunshot wounds. He and Dr Perry both stated at the time it was a frontal headshot.
 

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@bigredfish, I've seen that interview before and what always makes me think is.. That shot was a front shot... interesting
@tigerwillow1, and yes, if you went to the bookies they would sure give you some good odds on that chain of events... If you were to put your tin hat on you would defo go for somebody is trying to hush somebody up.
 

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LOL can’t resist.

No idea who was behind it, but three pieces of information have always made me go hmmmmm…

1) the motion of the head in the Zapruder film
2) the pristine bullet
And this interview.
Skip to 9:40 and then again to 25:30
I never really looked into this much before.
But I just searched this film and think this doctor is correct.
Pretty good shots either way. Lots of training to hit a moving target like that.


Oswald was placed in juvenile detention at the age of 12 for truancy, during which time he was assessed by a psychiatrist as "emotionally disturbed", due to a lack of normal family life. After attending 22 schools in his youth, he quit repeatedly, and finally when he was 17, joined the Marines. Oswald was court-martialed twice while in the Marines, and jailed. He was honorably released from active duty in the Marine Corps into the reserve, then promptly flew to Europe and defected to the Soviet Union in October 1959. He lived in Minsk, Byelorussia, married a Russian woman named Marina, and had a daughter. In June 1962, he returned to the United States with his wife, and eventually settled in Dallas, where their second daughter was also born.

Defection to the Soviet Union
Oswald traveled to the Soviet Union just before he turned 20 in October 1959. He had taught himself Russian and saved $1,500 of his Marine Corps salary (equivalent to $10,600 in 2020).[n 3] Oswald spent two days with his mother in Fort Worth, then embarked by ship on September 20 from New Orleans to Le Havre, France, and immediately traveled to the United Kingdom. Arriving in Southampton on October 9, he told officials he had $700 and planned to stay for one week before proceeding to a school in Switzerland. However, on the same day, he flew to Helsinki. In Helsinki, he checked-in at the Hotel Torni, room 309, then moved to Hotel Klaus Kurki, room 429.[49] He was issued a Soviet visa on October 14. Oswald left Helsinki by train on the following day, crossed the Soviet border at Vainikkala, and arrived in Moscow on October 16.[50] His visa, valid only for a week, was due to expire on October 21.[51]
Almost immediately after arriving, Oswald informed his Intourist guide of his desire to become a Soviet citizen. When asked why by the various Soviet officials he encountered – all of whom, by Oswald's account, found his wish incomprehensible – he said that he was a communist, and gave what he described in his diary as "vauge [sic] answers about 'Great Soviet Union'".[51] On October 21, the day his visa was due to expire, he was told that his citizenship application had been refused, and that he had to leave the Soviet Union that evening. Distraught, Oswald inflicted a minor but bloody wound to his left wrist in his hotel room bathtub soon before his Intourist guide was due to arrive to escort him from the country, according to his diary because he wished to kill himself in a way that would shock her.[51] Delaying Oswald's departure because of his self-inflicted injury, the Soviets kept him in a Moscow hospital under psychiatric observation for a week, until October 28, 1959.[52]

Apartment building where Oswald lived in Minsk
According to Oswald, he met with four more Soviet officials that same day, who asked if he wanted to return to the United States. Oswald replied by insisting that he wanted to live in the Soviet Union as a Soviet national. When pressed for identification papers, he provided his Marine Corps discharge papers.[53]
On October 31, Oswald appeared at the United States embassy in Moscow and declared a desire to renounce his U.S. citizenship.[54][55] "I have made up my mind", he said; "I'm through."[56] He told the U.S. embassy interviewing officer, Richard Edward Snyder, that "he had been a radar operator in the Marine Corps and that he had voluntarily stated to unnamed Soviet officials that as a Soviet citizen he would make known to them such information concerning the Marine Corps and his specialty as he possessed. He intimated that he might know something of special interest."[57] Such statements led to Oswald's hardship/honorable military reserve discharge being changed to undesirable.[58] The story of the defection of a former U.S. Marine to the Soviet Union was reported by both the Associated Press and United Press International.[59][60]
Though Oswald had wanted to attend Moscow State University, he was sent to Minsk, Belarus, to work as a lathe operator at the Gorizont Electronics Factory, which produced radios, televisions, and military and space electronics. Stanislau Shushkevich, who later became independent Belarus's first head of state, also worked at Gorizont at the time, and was assigned to teach Oswald Russian.[61] Oswald received a government-subsidized, fully furnished studio apartment in a prestigious building and an additional supplement to his factory pay, which allowed him to have a comfortable standard of living by working-class Soviet standards,[62] though he was kept under constant surveillance.[63]
 
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OK, so i REALLY hate to beat this horse, but...

Read this
Are the JFK assassination lies finally coming apart?
Are the JFK assassination lies finally coming apart?


Then read this which is an excerpt from the book coming out (unless deep state gets it stopped)
Thomas Lipscomb: Hidden In Plain Sight
The Key To The Kennedy Assassination Is On Public Display In The National Archives


NOTE: The renowned journalist Thomas Lipscomb has just completed a new manuscript (with Jerome Kroth) titled The Oswald Letter and it contains a number of staggering claims based on these federally released documents as well as fresh accounts from new eyewitnesses who have never before been interviewed. This is the third excerpt from The Oswald Letter to appear here on my Substack.
Thomas Lipscomb: Hidden In Plain Sight
 

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@bigredfish I have always had an interest in the front seat shooter! But most info I read about it seems to debunk the myth. Like I have said before I'm no gun expert, but that last fatal shot didn't come from the rear aka LHO. So this article is very interesting.
If only the "Babushka" person (I use that word instead of female as we never know) footage was ever found it would throw some new light one the whole story as they were recording the whole incident and were much closer than Abraham Zapruder
 

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Evidently the deep state is in control. Here is a part of an article I saw:

"No one can declassify, or make public, anything the Intelligence Branch will not agree to. Doubt this? Ask Ric Grenell, John Ratcliffe, or even President Trump himself."


 
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Bigredfish, YOU ARE SPOT on with this statement:

'Obama is key to much of the deterioration we see today. He truly was the Manchurian candidate we all thought he was.'

It all started with him. He took us far left, to quickly and now we have gone even FURTHER left.

Regardless, it all started with Obummer, there is no doubt.

As for who shot Kennedy, hard to say. Who, how many, from where, on and on and on. The Kennedy's had MANY enemies...much more then usual.
 

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Bigredfish, YOU ARE SPOT on with this statement:

'Obama is key to much of the deterioration we see today. He truly was the Manchurian candidate we all thought he was.'

It all started with him. He took us far left, to quickly and now we have gone even FURTHER left.

Regardless, it all started with Obummer, there is no doubt.

As for who shot Kennedy, hard to say. Who, how many, from where, on and on and on. The Kennedy's had MANY enemies...much more then usual.
You are right there @SJGUSMC21 they upset a lot of people on their way to the top and once in power! The Mafia, CIA, FIB.. the list goes on! For all I know it could of been a hired hitman by Jackie for the humiliation he put her through with the "Happy Birthday Mr President" by Marilyn Monroe :eek:
 
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