Nest Thermostat with Home Assistant?

[MacFun]

Nest Thermostat with Home Assistant?

Which thermostat are you using with full Home Assistant integration?

Important Items Include:
-Classy looking. The Nest display with the stainless steel ring has a nice look and feel.
-Full integration with Home Assistant.
-No batteries

I recently installed one of the cheaper Nest thermostats where the functionality was not obvious (you could not rotate a ring to adjust…), it took batteries and it did not look as nice as the flagship model. Oh and the biggest issue is that the Nest App was NOT SUPPORTED. You had to use Google Home Assistant or some such. For me this is a showstopper. Since this was not my home, it was not my call. But this user now has to use two different apps to adjust two different Nest thermostats.

So, let’s assume for the moment that the flagship Google Nest thermostat works with the Nest app…. Is this thing fully Home Assistant compatible and controllable….?

What are the downsides of the Nest HA combination?

Thanks,

R

 

[Keizer]

I replaced my Nest thermostat with an Ecobee. From what I read, it was a pain in the caboose to try and integrate Nest into Home Assistant. So I didn't even try. Ecobee was a breeze to integrate with HA.

 

[CanCuba]

Nest Thermostat with Home Assistant?

Which thermostat are you using with full Home Assistant integration?

Important Items Include:
-Classy looking. The Nest display with the stainless steel ring has a nice look and feel.
-Full integration with Home Assistant.
-No batteries

I recently installed one of the cheaper Nest thermostats where the functionality was not obvious (you could not rotate a ring to adjust…), it took batteries and it did not look as nice as the flagship model. Oh and the biggest issue is that the Nest App was NOT SUPPORTED. You had to use Google Home Assistant or some such. For me this is a showstopper. Since this was not my home, it was not my call. But this user now has to use two different apps to adjust two different Nest thermostats.

So, let’s assume for the moment that the flagship Google Nest thermostat works with the Nest app…. Is this thing fully Home Assistant compatible and controllable….?

What are the downsides of the Nest HA combination?

Thanks,

R

I'm doing a lot of research into HA and Frigate. Personally, I find a lot more info in the r/homeassisant subreddit and Home Assistant Community

Not sure how many HA experts there are here and you may find your answer but I'm sure it's been covered in both the above forums.

 

[MacFun]

What HA hardware are you both running?

 

[The Automation Guy]

Which thermostat are you using with full Home Assistant integration?

As with anything important, go hardwired if possible.

I've been using a RCS TR-40 Thermostat for well over a decade and it simply works all the time. Everything is hardwired however. It replaced my old thermostat (ie used the old thermostat wiring) so it gets power from the HVAC system and the automation/data connection is also hardwired (RS-232). Unfortunately they don't make those thermostats anymore because companies realized that for the consumer market "simple" is the number one way to generate sales, and installing hardwired units is obviously harder than wireless devices.

PS - I should note that I currently don't use Home Assistant for my automation system. However I am beginning the process of trying it out with the idea that I will move to it eventually. My automation software (CQC) is no longer being developed and therefore I will eventually need to switch to something else.

 

[jpc-s4]

My two cents...

I run Hubitat as my "main" hub, but also have an AppleTV 4k that runs HomeKit, and I have picked up Home Assistant. I also have two Nest thermostats.

I have tried and tried, following the "Nest for Dummies" tutorials, but I cannot get my thermostats to work reliably inside Hubitat. From scanning articles, the process is the same (or very similar) to bring them into HA. I will be replacing them at some point, because they are such a pain in the ass, and because Google is an evil company.

 

[Keizer]

My two cents...

I run Hubitat as my "main" hub, but also have an AppleTV 4k that runs HomeKit, and I have picked up Home Assistant. I also have two Nest thermostats.

I have tried and tried, following the "Nest for Dummies" tutorials, but I cannot get my thermostats to work reliably inside Hubitat. From scanning articles, the process is the same (or very similar) to bring them into HA. I will be replacing them at some point, because they are such a pain in the ass, and because Google is an evil company.

I ended up installing my Nest thermostat out in my shop for heat only in the winter. Even then I keep it off unless I want some heat.

 

[jpc-s4]

My two cents...

I run Hubitat as my "main" hub, but also have an AppleTV 4k that runs HomeKit, and I have picked up Home Assistant. I also have two Nest thermostats.

I have tried and tried, following the "Nest for Dummies" tutorials, but I cannot get my thermostats to work reliably inside Hubitat. From scanning articles, the process is the same (or very similar) to bring them into HA. I will be replacing them at some point, because they are such a pain in the ass, and because Google is an evil company.

Quoting myself... I must be getting old.

But I digress. An update... Since I had nothing better to do this morning, I tried the instructions again, comparing those from Hubitat as well as Home Assistant. Went into the g*gle environment, wiped out all the old stuff I had, and started anew. After about an hour and a half, I was able to get the system set up, but it wasn't a simple thing because for some stupid reason, it kept defaulting to my ***@gmail.com account rather than the account I use for most stuff. Once I was able to figure out where it was screwing up, it took a little trial and error, but I got it working.

I put mine into Hubitat, but the g**gle side is the same for either, so the same thing would likely work in HA just as well.