New Router on different subnet, Hikvision camera’s need special software to program?

[Gary R.]

Sorry guys if this is redundant, I put in a new router that has a different subnet, and although some camera’s came up, it looks like the Hikvision and Dahua camera’s didn’t. I think the router sees them, but I guess need to reprogram them and I remember doing that a couple of computers ago. I found IVMS software and I can see the camera’s in that, just can’t seem to change them and activate them. Do I need some other software as well? I think the other camera is a Dahua, can do real well at zooming and works well with the AI software in Blue Iris. I bought that from someone on here.

I am not on here very much, so any help is much appreciated. Thanks.

Gary

 

[wittaj]

Why not just make the router the same IP address as the previous router?

 

[Gary R.]

Why not just make the router the same IP address as the previous router?

It’s a special secured router that has embedded VPN in it. Has it’s own secure IP structure.

 

[wittaj]

What router make/model is that where it will not let you change the IP address of the router itself?

Most of us use routers with VPN native to the router and we can change the actual router IP address.

 

[Gary R.]

What router make/model is that where it will not let you change the IP address of the router itself?

Most of us use routers with VPN native to the router and we can change the actual router IP address.

It’s a RIO router. I probably could have changed it, just thought it not wise to mess with it. Plus thought for security purposes it might be nice to be off the main normal 1.1 subnet. Did I buy that zoom camera from you, is that a Dahua or knock off? That one is off too. I think I need to find the computer I used to telnet into that. Trying to remember that program and number too.

Gary

 

[wittaj]

There is nothing wrong with changing a new router to the IP address subnet of the rest of your house....it is the preferred method for seamless transition.

You either change the router IP or every device that had a static IP on the previous subnet.

Since you have some cameras that you can see, those are probably dynamic IP and will adjust to whatever IP subnet the router is putting out.

The ones you don't see are static and on a different subnet, so you either change router IP or these cameras.

Plus it is just good practice to not have a router on the default IP address.

I don't sell cameras so can't help you there lol.

 

[Gary R.]

Yeah, you would have thought a retired Cisco CCNA would have checked to see what camera’s I had static IP’s in. So you were not the guy that sold me that IP Camera. It was a zoom camera that caught license plates well. Maybe you were the one that wrote that script and program to file up those license plate numbers. Not sure if the Hikvision cameras have static, they just had to be setup with a program, that I seem to have, it sees the camera’s just won’t change anything. Oh well. I may have to get a computer, set up a router on 192.168.1.1 and run that program. Thanks.

Gary

 

[wittaj]

I may have recommended the camera to use for LPR.

And you don't need a program to set up these cameras.

The "programming" is done thru a web browser.

Do the arp command to see what those IPs are and then set a computer to yhst subnet and then use a browser to log into each one on that subnet.

 

[Gary R.]

Yeah, I remember logging into it with the browser, can’t remember the IP for the web browser on the camera. Not sure the arp command will find much. I did find 3 IP’s with the 192.168.1.0 numbers. I think they are all on my POE switch. I think they are 3 Hikvision camera’s, not the LPR camera. My brain is getting burned out, may have to take a break until tomorrow.

New EDIT. The MVS 4200 program I have sees the camera’s, just won’t let me change anything on them. Frustration.

G.

 

[TonyR]

It’s a special secured router that has embedded VPN in it. Has it’s own secure IP structure.

It appears to be a subscription-based VPN ($80/year) that hides your IP and location: From Our Technology

Rio automatically encrypts and anonymizes all connected devices’ identification, location, and communication.​

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All devices that connect to Rio, including IoT devices that could not get VPN before (Alexa, smart thermostats, baby monitors, security cameras, doorbells), can now experience true internet privacy.​

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Watch shows and movies from anywhere in the world without needing to set up a VPN on your phone, TV, or computer.
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And the description of the Android app on the Google Play Store: Rio VPN Secure Fast VPN Proxy - Apps on Google Play

Rio VPN - Unlimited free VPN for Android! Hide your identity anywhere with hundreds of servers with unlimited bandwidth!​

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Watch streaming videos, download desired content, speed up games, access blocked sites, apps, gamers, protect your network security, secure WiFi hotspots and bypass firewalls with this most secure VPN with super fast VPN servers.​

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[wittaj]

Yeah, I remember logging into it with the browser, can’t remember the IP for the web browser on the camera. Not sure the arp command will find much. I did find 3 IP’s with the 192.168.1.0 numbers. I think they are all on my POE switch. I think they are 3 Hikvision camera’s, not the LPR camera. My brain is getting burned out, may have to take a break until tomorrow.

New EDIT. The MVS 4200 program I have sees the camera’s, just won’t let me change anything on them. Frustration.

G.

In that case, this is what I would do:

Unhook a computer or laptop from the internet and go into ethernet settings and using the IPv4 settings manually change the IP address to 192.168.1.100

Then power up your camera and wait a few minutes.

Then go to INTERNET EXPLORER (needs to be Explorer and not Edge or Chrome with IE tab) and type in 192.168.1.xxx (whatever the IP address was) and you will then access the camera.

Then go to the camera Network settings and change the camera IP address to the range of your system and hit save.

You will then lose the camera connection.

Then reverse the process to put your computer back on your network IP address range.

Next open up INTERNET EXPLORER and type in the new IP address that you just gave the camera to access it.

OR use the tool you are using, but most of us prefer the above as it is one less program needed and one less chance for the cameras to phone home or for something to get screwed up.

 

[Gary R.]

Well, interesting, the MVS 4200 program found one of the camera’s and it had an IP on the new router. So I used that in BI and it came up. Did the camera time out and do a DNS request, or did I just get lucky.

Still working on other stuff as well, Alexa needs updating so I can just yell and her and tell her to turn off or on the lights.

Internet Explorer, they still have that. Still not sure what the IP address was. My old MAC crashed and burned taking out a lot of my notes.

G.

 

[Gary R.]

So, I did what you suggested up above, and used the laptop, and got into the camera. The user ID and password didn’t work. Tried the questions, also didn’t work. I am pretty sure that I reset this camera by taking off the little cap and pressing the button inside. It showed on the MVS as inactive, and then I got it active again. Would I use a default password then? What is that, anybody know.

 

[Gary R.]

I think I will be contacting Hikvision today to get password resets.

 

[wittaj]

Good luck with that. They will tell you to contract the authorized dealer you bought them from.

 

[Gary R.]

Pretty sure I bought it from Amazon. Told them that too. They deny it, gonna raise a ruckus with Amazon.

Well, I filled out the password reset form, so we will see what happens. I found on an older computer the Guarding Expert program I used to install them, and got 3 back online. The one I reset is the only one I need a password for right now. Also, the LPR camera is not working, and I am not sure what make and model it is, so after it gets warmer, I may go see if it has a Mac address on the label. Don’t know if it has a reset button on it or not. I bought it from somebody on here so I am going to check out some of my older posts.

 

[IAmATeaf]

What was the idea behind the new router? Does this router perform routing as without that you’ll have a hard time if you are going to keep devices on your “home network”?

 

[Gary R.]

What was the idea behind the new router? Does this router perform routing as without that you’ll have a hard time if you are going to keep devices on your “home network”?

Better security and built in VPN.

 

[IAmATeaf]

It appears to be a subscription-based VPN ($80/year) that hides your IP and location: From Our Technology

Rio automatically encrypts and anonymizes all connected devices’ identification, location, and communication.​

​

All devices that connect to Rio, including IoT devices that could not get VPN before (Alexa, smart thermostats, baby monitors, security cameras, doorbells), can now experience true internet privacy.​

​

Watch shows and movies from anywhere in the world without needing to set up a VPN on your phone, TV, or computer.​

​

And the description of the Android app on the Google Play Store: Rio VPN Secure Fast VPN Proxy - Apps on Google Play

Rio VPN - Unlimited free VPN for Android! Hide your identity anywhere with hundreds of servers with unlimited bandwidth!​

​

Watch streaming videos, download desired content, speed up games, access blocked sites, apps, gamers, protect your network security, secure WiFi hotspots and bypass firewalls with this most secure VPN with super fast VPN servers.​

​

I’ve just taken a look at their website and have to admit it does look very much like those sites that offer a crap product but then offer insane discount deals if you buy now.

I couldn’t really find any info on their VPN and locations that they offer or the specs on their router?

Still looking to see if their is an install guide as that might offer key info on how you are supposed to configure it?

 

[TonyR]

I’ve just taken a look at their website and have to admit it does look very much like those sites that offer a crap product but then offer insane discount deals if you buy now.

I couldn’t really find any info on their VPN and locations that they offer or the specs on their router?

Still looking to see if their is an install guide as that might offer key info on how you are supposed to configure it?

Yeah, not a lot of info except they tend to offer easy-to-use, plug 'n play type of items which further makes me think it's not a client-server VPN (like OpenVPN and WireGuard) but a typical subscription type that hides your identity, your IP address and your country of origin, etc.