OK, thanks for fast response,
I know persisting to try & do both is foolish, I was so very close & in fact did work really well when the car was under 5pm an 10 feet from the gate but over the last 20 feet cars could be a quite different speeds and stop either 5 to 15 feet away & those stopping right close to the gate were still moving a fraction too fast at the last few reading points.
was just looking back at your advise to others & see that it is the high shutter and normally dark image.
Will set that up & sort another camera.
Thanks again for all your help.
To be honest it was also the extra camera & wire just all a bit of a mess on the gate post & looks a little like entrance to fort knox.
All made slightly trickier as the area in the back is where my clients park & often turn into my bit so have to zone & trigger very carefully to prevent capture & alerts from these, but getting early enough that don't have to wait long for the gate to open, otherwise I could point much more outwards & further out.