Older PC for running Blue iris.....

[Keizer]

I'm building up a new security camera system upgrading from my old Lorex consumer grade system. I have so far ordered three of the 4K T's with the built in LED's for each of my three entry doors on the house. I also purchased a 16 port Netgear PoE+ switch. I'm planning on a total of eight cameras but I haven't decided on the other five yet. So I'm not sure yet if all cameras will be 8MP......I doubt it. I want to run Blue Iris this time around instead of an NVR. My current Lorex NVR is a clunky experience if you do anything beyond just looking at the camera views. I have an older gaming PC that I could use for Blue Iris but I'm not really sure how well it will work with multiple 8MP cameras. The CPU is an Intel i5-4440 and has 16GB of RAM. It was a great gaming rig back in it's prime but it's definitely dated.

What are your thoughts on this PC? I have no issues with waiting to find a more robust PC to use but I thought since I had this one already.............................

 

[bluebat]

You'll be fine. 4th gen Intel CPUs have H264 hardware acceleration and have enough horsepower. See this wiki entry for more information: Choosing Hardware for Blue Iris

 

[wittaj]

That is fine. People are running 50 cameras with 4th gen no problem. Since you have it laying around give it a try

Follow every optimization in the wiki. Substreams are a must.

Hardware Acceleration is no longer needed now with substreams and can actually make the CPU% go up using it.

Another hardware question

I know this has been asked in the past (many times) and apologize for asking again, but I want to make sure that I get this right the 1st time and not make a dumb mistake that will cause me to start over partway down the road. I am researching hardware for the Blue Iris computer that will run...

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My humble i5-4590 still humming along with 30+ cams:

I see people posting about their i7-xxxx system bogging down with less than 10 cameras so I wanted to update my setup. I have ~33 cams running on my BI system: HP Elitedesk 800 G1 tower i5-4590 @ 3.3GHz 16GB ram 12TB total purple drives for storage 30+ total cams currently - 22 cams visible in...

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[looney2ns]

4k cams take some horse power to process.
At this point all you can do is try what you have, but I'll lay odds you will want something more robust.

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[Keizer]

Thanks guys for the info!

Looney, I will give my current system a try but there's always Ebay if I decide on upgrading.

 

[Keizer]

Good grief.....I forgot how big this thing is!

 

[looney2ns]

I bet it's a power hog as well, compared to the one I linked above.

 

[Keizer]

I bet it's a power hog as well, compared to the one I linked above.

I could neuter the thing by putting in a different graphics card.

 

[TonyR]

Good grief.....I forgot how big this thing is!

Wow....looks like an old timey cotton gin, corn grinder or peanut sheller....
Do the lights dim when that thing powers up?

 

[Keizer]

Wow....looks like an old timey cotton gin, corn grinder or peanut sheller....

Yeah, but the gamers are still building them like this. Here's my current system. It's not even in an enclosed case.

 

[wittaj]

I could neuter the thing by putting in a different graphics card.

You don't need a graphics card unless you plan to do some heavy duty CodeProject AI.

But the camera AI is probably more than enough.

 

[Keizer]

You don't need a graphics card unless you plan to do some heavy duty CodeProject AI.

But the camera AI is probably more than enough.

Well if I pulled that graphics card out then power consumption would go way down. The graphics card probably uses alot of power just sitting there.

 

[wittaj]

Well if I pulled that graphics card out then power consumption would go way down. The graphics card probably uses alot of power just sitting there.

Exactly! A GPU was needed prior to substreams for older computers, but now it is just a power hog not needed.

 

[Keizer]

Exactly! A GPU was needed prior to substreams for older computers, but now it is just a power hog not needed.

The mother board has onboard graphics if I ever needed it.

 

[bluebat]

Doesn't webcasting take up a lot of CPU? Doesn't the GPU help with transcoding if you're casting it via UI3?

 

[wittaj]

Doesn't webcasting take up a lot of CPU? Doesn't the GPU help with transcoding if you're casting it via UI3?

CPU goes up a few %, but not more than the cost of powering the GPU or the CPU% it takes to offload the video to the GPU.

And if you are doing direct to wire to UI3, then it is minimal.

Here was a recent thread where someone turned off hardware acceleration as I suggested and his CPU dropped 10-15%

Blue Iris Crashing on Startup

When I open the Windows Application BI takes a very long time to load and then eventually would hang up after it completes loading. However the webserver works just fine if I leave it alone. I've restore my entire system to previous dates with no luck. Reset BI to default and without any old...

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[Keizer]

Could probably ditch a few of the case fans as well to reduce fan noise.

 

[Keizer]

Ok I took out the DVD drive, and the two WD storage drives that were in there. I did a clean install of windows 10 on a Kingston Hyper X Fury 480 Gig SSD that was in there. Need to grab a purple drive next.

 

[Flintstone61]

Yeah I could run 9 cams on my i5-4590 Dell 9020 just fine, and still stream Netflix and or You tube videos.

 

[Keizer]

4k cams take some horse power to process.
At this point all you can do is try what you have, but I'll lay odds you will want something more robust.

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I can always upgrade the CPU to an i7 for $125.00. They have a renewed CPU for $99.00. I'd rather do that because I built this system and I know it has quality parts in it.

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