Problems capturing animals using IVS intrusion box or trip wire

[aschippers]

Hi all - I am new to setting up POE cameras and do not have much tech knowledge going into this. I am learning as I go. I came across the forum when upgrading from my Arlo cameras. I purchased two cameras and an NVR from Empire tech based on other posts I’ve researched. I have one IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3, and one IPC-Color4K-T180 4K paired with NVR8CH-8P-2AI 8 Channels 1U 8PoE NVR. After some trial and error, lots of searching the forum, and maybe YouTube videos I got everything up and running and dialed in pretty decent for a beginner.

The problem I’m running into is I cannot for the life of me have any success with trip wires or intrusion boxes to try and detect animals. No matter what I do it will never capture my dog passing through. Both cameras do an excellent job sending notifications for humans and vehicles so no problem there. I’m looking for advice on new things I can try or if animal detection is a lost cause on these cameras. After searching other threads it seems like these cameras used to filter out all animals but with the new firmware the IVS settings have an animal check box so hoping I’m just doing something incorrect. Thanks for any help in advance.

 

[wittaj]

The T180 does not have animal detection and are designed to not trigger for animals, so you are not doing anything wrong.

You might trick it to get some, but it won't be reliable.

The 54IR has a firmware update that has an animal checkbox, so look to update that camera.

So you either use BI with CodeProject or use plain motion detection (not recommended as you will get a lot of false triggers).

 

[Sybertiger]

Take a look at the follow thread:

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Thread 'Detecting wildlife with Dahua cameras'

Sep 7, 2022

I'm starting this thread to be a resource for people wanting to use Dahua IP cameras to monitor and view wildlife. If you're among the majority of users who want your cameras to ignore detection of cats, dogs, and other animals, you are fortunate that the newer cameras do this quite effectively, and the rest of the post is of no use to you. (Edit 10/16/22 - I added some 5-week test results in posts #40 and #41).

If you do want your Dahua camera to detect wildlife and animals with IVS I'm sharing what I've learned and hope others can expand the information. I'm in a rural area and...

• tigerwillow1
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[bigredfish]

Hi all - I am new to setting up POE cameras and do not have much tech knowledge going into this. I am learning as I go. I came across the forum when upgrading from my Arlo cameras. I purchased two cameras and an NVR from Empire tech based on other posts I’ve researched. I have one IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3, and one IPC-Color4K-T180 4K paired with NVR8CH-8P-2AI 8 Channels 1U 8PoE NVR. After some trial and error, lots of searching the forum, and maybe YouTube videos I got everything up and running and dialed in pretty decent for a beginner.

The problem I’m running into is I cannot for the life of me have any success with trip wires or intrusion boxes to try and detect animals. No matter what I do it will never capture my dog passing through. Both cameras do an excellent job sending notifications for humans and vehicles so no problem there. I’m looking for advice on new things I can try or if animal detection is a lost cause on these cameras. After searching other threads it seems like these cameras used to filter out all animals but with the new firmware the IVS settings have an animal check box so hoping I’m just doing something incorrect. Thanks for any help in advance.

The 4K-T180 does not have critter detection that I’m aware of

The 54IR-Z3 should though.

Does it have an Animal filter checkbox on the IVS rule page? May need to get the updated FW from Andy

 

[wittaj]

Take a look at the follow thread:

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Thread 'Detecting wildlife with Dahua cameras'

Sep 7, 2022

I'm starting this thread to be a resource for people wanting to use Dahua IP cameras to monitor and view wildlife. If you're among the majority of users who want your cameras to ignore detection of cats, dogs, and other animals, you are fortunate that the newer cameras do this quite effectively, and the rest of the post is of no use to you. (Edit 10/16/22 - I added some 5-week test results in posts #40 and #41).

If you do want your Dahua camera to detect wildlife and animals with IVS I'm sharing what I've learned and hope others can expand the information. I'm in a rural area and...

• tigerwillow1
• Replies: 146
• Forum: Dahua

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Keep in mind the beginning of that thread is for the older GUI, so you cannot take the old firmware and flash it to the S3 model.

But you can update the 54IR S3 to the firmware with the animal detection.

 

[aschippers]

Thank you for the replies so far. I had been reading over that thread as it was the only one I could find on animal detection. It seems like the new firmware is where the animal detection is added. I’ll attach the settings I’m using currently which does have the animal detection selected. Also, bigredfish, that’s correct the T180 doesn’t have animal detection so I’ll just start to focus on my 54IR-Z3 for now.

 

[wittaj]

Turn off acupick. That is using camera processor resources that could take away from the task at hand.

That is a high field of view with a long reaching intrusion box. It will struggle the further out it gets.

Probably cannot lower the camera any? The AI would be designed more for straight on versus overhead view. And with animal being new firmware, it won't have the database yet of all kinds of angles and what not.

You could also try the global config that kind of "calibrates" the field of view.

 

[aschippers]

Thank you I’ll try this after work and see if I get any results. Maybe just out of luck with the angle. I could lower it but not easily so we will see if I go that route or not. Good to know it could just be the angles. When I install more cameras for my backyard I’ll pay more attention to mounting location.