PT - New Dahua Camera Category and Models

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Mostly 4MP on 1/2.8 junk, but I do see a few possible standouts. If you can live with 2MP some interesting choices...

- Right sensor, but cheap Digital WDR and No IR


- So much potential, but lets put that shitty 1/2.8 sensor on yet another 4MP cam

- Lets get REALLY stupid and put that 1/2.8" sensor on an 8MP camera, Yeah!
 
Kant and Hugo firmware lines...

So those are continuation of ImouLife and wireless consumer cams...

very underpowered SOC/CPU.. and features cut in firmware..

those are lower than Dahua 1xxx lines...

imou had newer any local detection. the "AI" detection on these cams only works with enabled internet to cloud to my knowledge.

SMD 4.0 is SMD 4.0 if spec sheet is true
 
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I did t see Auto Tracking Lite explanation?

And LOL, gotta love what they show as “low light settings” :rofl: :lmao: :rolleyes:
Dahua probably had a water truck spray water all over the place to take advantage of light reflection. What a bunch of clowns. :rolleyes:
 
What is Auto Tracking Lite?
I think the auto tracking 'lite' is a version without optical zoom being included in tracking parameters.

Aka, software limitations for no reason. More reason someone would choose a different brand over Dahua.:confused: Someone needs to tell them that competitors offer full auto tracking for cheap PTZs.
 
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imou had newer any local detection. the "AI" detection on these cams only works with enabled internet to cloud to my knowledge.
AI detection (people and vehicles) and smart tracking of people also work without internet access and therefore without the Imou Cloud. However, the Imou app doesn't work without the Imou Cloud, and therefore the Imou app cannot be used for this purpose. However, you can still use the AI features without the cloud, for example, via a Dahua NVR.

I have an Imou Cruiser Dual 8MP, among other devices, and it's fully supported by my Dahua NVR2108-I. Internet access for the Imou Cruiser Dual is blocked, but AI detection and smart tracking still work about the camera itself.

AI via camera and not via recorder.
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In the new Imou models, such as the Imou Cruiser 2, Imou has integrated a different and new AI functionality, which they call Algo Play. AI functionalities can/must be downloaded over the internet. I don't know whether these AI features will still work without the Imou Cloud. But I don't think so, because Imou also wants to sell cloud subscription and generate more revenue that way.
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I have already mentioned here that the Dahua P5D-5F-PV is virtually identical to the Imou Crusier Dual: Does the P5D-5F-PV Camera Support ONVIF Protocol?

Yes, of course the Imou models are "slimmed down" compared to the higher quality and therefore more expensive Dahua models, i.e. the Imou models use cheaper hardware and some software features have been omitted, but as already mentioned in the other posting the Dahua P5D-5F-PV is identical to the Imou Cruiser Dual, the only difference is that the Imou Cruiser Dual only cost me €55 and the Dahua P5D-5F-PV costs over €100 here in Germany. And for a price of €55 I obviously don't expect what a Dahua model from the PT3, SD3, SD4, SD5... series offers me. For the Imou Crusier Dual's intended use here, the camera is perfectly sufficient for me and the price of €55 (via Aliexpress) is/was virtually unbeatable.

BTW: As far as I know, the TP-Link Vigi models are also Dahua OEM models, but they are not as "slimmed down" as the Imou models and the Vigi models, for example, also have more Dahua IVS features than the Imou models.

Example: Tp-Link Vigi Smart Event
• Intrusion Detection
• Line-Crossing Detection
• People Detection
• Vehicle Detection
• Region Entering Detection
• Region Exiting Detection
• Object Abandoned Detection
• Object Removal Detection
• Loitering Detection
• Abnormal Sound Detection
• Scene Change Detection

The TP-Link VIGI C540 model is available in Germany for around €100. However, the Vigi models are not recognized as Dahua models by my Dahua NVR - like the Imou - but they have to be integrated via Onvif. I personally don't need another camera here, but the Vigi models seem to be a good compromise for me if you're looking for a somewhat more affordable camera model.


Edit: If anyone here has already tested Vigi models with a Dahua NVR, I'd be interested in the experiences. For example, which AI features are available when integrated with the NVR via Onvif. The Vigi models also use Onvif Profile-S and therefore some Smart Event features may no longer be available when integrated via Onvif via a Dahua NVR.
 
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I have been playing aroung with 2 of their cheap Pt and PTZ models and I think for the price they will be pretty good cams.

SD2C400NA-B-PV-PRO and the SD3D216NB-GNY

The color PT is about the size of the 54XX turret with the 1/1.8 cmos with a pretty good color nightime image.
It does have digital zoom that you can control with the PTZ controls and works surprisingly well.

It has the auto tracking lite, not sure what the lite really is except it does not zoom and tracks for a short time.
The odd thing is, you set up the "smart tracking" in the SMD section and not the IVS, odd for they way they are normally set up.
It does have IVS but no tracking in that section, and can not use both at the same time, one or the other.

The 2MP does have the smaller sensor but at 2MP it has a pretty good image and a full 16x optical zoom with IR.
Reportedly - AT will be added in the next FW update.

These are a pretty good options at the prices these cameras will come in at, if you want to be able to move around and see different directions
with one camera and not at the $400+ price range.
You also can use with trigger cams with a NVR to a different presets.


Color PT 4mp 1/1.8 CMOS (T54xx right)----------2MP 1/2.8 16x IR WizSense (SD49xx right)

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With all due respect @jmcu, you seem to have an auxillary switch for turning on the sun in those snaps. My old 1/3" 2231's would look good there ;)

Though as I originally mentioned, the 2MP versions may be interesting if one can live with 2MP in 2025, and that 4MP with the 1/1.8 sensor would be great if it wasn't white LED only