T5442T-ZE Day/Night settings

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Yes, I know starlight is just branding, but DahuaHDW5231 and DahuaSD49225 2MP are killing it at night. I have just a few lights and the night view is outstanding (now) . I was just letting the default profiles take over and now with forced color, It's like I bought a new dozen cameras. Maybe the default profile with LOTS of light as in commercial applications just work, but the advantage of the large sensors over the cheap cameras (I've had a few) is immeasurable.

Here are a few examples of what I have accomplished tonight by changing the defaults.
 

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Keep in mind that any camera can look good with still images - I can make a crap camera look like noon when it is midnight, but then motion is complete garbage and useless.

Are you off auto/default settings and have shutter at least 1/60th or faster?

If you were on default/auto before and it went into infrared automatically, then knowing these cameras, I suspect in color you are running slower shutter speeds than that to get the color. In which case you will get great still images, but blur motion.

How does motion look in these views - can you freeze frame and get a clean capture of a person in motion or is it a blur?

That is what you are after - a clean capture of a face in motion, not photo quality stills with nothing moving.
 
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My standard post regarding shutter speed to capture clean night images:

In my opinion, shutter (exposure) and gain are the two most important parameters and then base the others off of it. Shutter is more important than FPS. It is the shutter speed that prevents motion blur, not FPS. 15 FPS is more than enough for surveillance cameras as we are not producing Hollywood movies. Match iframes to FPS. 15FPS is all that is usually needed.

Many people do not realize there is manual shutter that lets you adjust shutter and gain and a shutter priority that only lets you adjust shutter speed but not gain. The higher the gain, the bigger the noise and see-through ghosting start to appear because the noise is amplified. Most people select shutter priority and run a faster shutter than they should because it is likely being done at 100 gain, so it is actually defeating their purpose of a faster shutter.

But first, run H264, smart codec off, CBR, and 8192 bitrate to start. This should make it more crisp.

I think you should also take off manual IR - your camera is low so you are getting a lot of IR bounce off the ground that is degrading the picture.

Go into shutter settings and change to manual shutter and start with custom shutter as ms and change to 0-8.3ms and gain 0-50 (night) and 0-30 (day)for starters. Auto could have a shutter speed of 100ms or more with a gain at 100 and shutter priority could result in gain up at 100 which will contribute to significant ghosting and that blinding white you will get from the infrared.

Now what you will notice immediately at night is that your image gets A LOT darker. That faster the shutter, the more light that is needed. But it is a balance. The nice bright night image results in Casper during motion LOL. What do we want, a nice static image or a clean image when there is motion introduced to the scene?

So if it is too dark, then start adding ms to the time. Go to 10ms, 12ms, etc. until you find what you feel is acceptable as an image. Then have someone walk around and see if you can get a clean shot. Try not to go above 16.67ms (but certainly not above 30ms) as that tends to be the point where blur starts to occur. Conversely, if it is still bright, then drop down in time to get a faster shutter.

You can also adjust brightness and contrast to improve the image.

You can also add some gain to brighten the image - but the higher the gain, the more ghosting you get. Some cameras can go to 70 or so before it is an issue and some can't go over 50.

But adjusting those two settings will have the biggest impact. The next one is noise reduction. Want to keep that as low as possible. Depending on the amount of light you have, you might be able to get down to 40 or so at night (again camera dependent) and 20-30 during the day, but take it as low as you can before it gets too noisy. Again this one is a balance as well. Too smooth and no noise can result in soft images and contribute to blur.

Do not use backlight features until you have exhausted every other parameter setting. And if you do have to use backlight, take it down as low as possible.

After every setting adjustment, have someone walk around outside and see if you can freeze-frame to get a clean image. If not, keep changing until you do. Clean motion pictures are what we are after, not a clean static image.
 

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@wittaj what's the logic for avoiding using backlight until as a last resort?
Depending on which one is used it can introduce unnecessary noise, blur during motion, and a whole other host of issues during motion.

It can make a still image look great, so always test with motion.

Backlight is adding another layer of digital processing to the image and that is what can cause issues with motion.

Sometimes we have no choice and have to use it, but do so at the lowest setting.

I have one field of view that needs WDR. The image looks great when set to 50 but motion is trash. So I run it at a level of 4 and get acceptable motion video.
 

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Depending on which one is used it can introduce unnecessary noise, blur during motion, and a whole other host of issues during motion.

It can make a still image look great, so always test with motion.

Backlight is adding another layer of digital processing to the image and that is what can cause issues with motion.

Sometimes we have no choice and have to use it, but do so at the lowest setting.

I have one field of view that needs WDR. The image looks great when set to 50 but motion is trash. So I run it at a level of 4 and get acceptable motion video.
i see, for me i find it magically brightens up the image for me to what i need as I don't want to exceed more than 60 gain and don't want to lower the shutter any further.
 

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i see, for me i find it magically brightens up the image for me to what i need as I don't want to exceed more than 60 gain and don't want to lower the shutter any further.
Well that is the point of the backlight LOL. As long as you are satisfied with the performance of the camera during motion, then all is good.
 

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i see, for me i find it magically brightens up the image for me to what i need as I don't want to exceed more than 60 gain and don't want to lower the shutter any further.
Agree with @wittaj completely course, but when you say it magically brightens the image, have you tested it with walking moving subjects or are you just after a pretty still picture?
 
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