Sybertiger
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At this point do we are will we ever know if the "real real" list was destroyed and a substitute put in it's place. Can you really trust the FBI and the Biden Administration after all the stunts they pulled.
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At this point do we are will we ever know if the "real real" list was destroyed and a substitute put in it's place. Can you really trust the FBI and the Biden Administration after all the stunts they pulled.
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I would not doubt that Trumps name is on an Epstein list. He did know Epstein and flew on his airplane a couple of times. However, I have seen zero evidence that Trump visited the Island or had sex with the underage girls.
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Dershowitz: There Is No Epstein Client List, And Don't Blame the DoJ
Is the 'Epstein client list' scandal overblown? After days of reported infighting, a presidential scolding, and a general sense that no one knows how to handle it, a surprising voice has emerged to declare that there's no real scandal at all.
A few days ago, Alan Dershowitz claimed that the evidence in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal really did exist, because he had access to it. "I know the names of the individuals, I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them," Dershowitz told Sean Spicer, "but I'm bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and I can't disclose what I know. But, hand to God, I know the names of people whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them, and that's wrong."
That comment got misinterpreted by some to mean that the Department of Justice and Pam Bondi had suppressed an Epstein client list for reasons unknown. Over the last few days, though, Dershowitz has clarified his argument significantly -- and says the problem isn't the DoJ at all. And Dershowitz says he knows for a fact that the "Epstein client list" is a media myth:
Dershowitz, in an extensive interview Monday with Newsmax's "The Record With Greta Van Susteren," also commented that he has "seen the names" of people accused of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein, and that there "are lists of names," but "there's nobody currently serving in office" among them, so the controversy over a list is a "nothing-burger."
"I don't think you can fault Pam Bondi or the Justice Department," when it comes to releasing any redacted or sealed materials, Dershowitz told Van Susteren. "They don't have the authority to release this redacted material or the sealed material. I think — I can't know this for sure — that they've released everything that they are able to release."…
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Is the 'Epstein client list' scandal overblown? After days of reported infighting, a presidential scolding, and a general sense that no one knows how to handle it, a surprising voice has emerged to declare that there's no real scandal at all.
A few days ago, Alan Dershowitz claimed that the evidence in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal really did exist, because he had access to it. "I know the names of the individuals, I know why they're being suppressed. I know who's suppressing them," Dershowitz told Sean Spicer, "but I'm bound by confidentiality from a judge and cases, and I can't disclose what I know. But, hand to God, I know the names of people whose files are being suppressed in order to protect them, and that's wrong."
That comment got misinterpreted by some to mean that the Department of Justice and Pam Bondi had suppressed an Epstein client list for reasons unknown. Over the last few days, though, Dershowitz has clarified his argument significantly -- and says the problem isn't the DoJ at all. And Dershowitz says he knows for a fact that the "Epstein client list" is a media myth:
Dershowitz, in an extensive interview Monday with Newsmax's "The Record With Greta Van Susteren," also commented that he has "seen the names" of people accused of wrongdoing in connection with Epstein, and that there "are lists of names," but "there's nobody currently serving in office" among them, so the controversy over a list is a "nothing-burger."
"I don't think you can fault Pam Bondi or the Justice Department," when it comes to releasing any redacted or sealed materials, Dershowitz told Van Susteren. "They don't have the authority to release this redacted material or the sealed material. I think — I can't know this for sure — that they've released everything that they are able to release."…
Dershowitz: There Is No Epstein Client List, And Don't Blame the DoJ
Dershowitz argues there's no Epstein client list and defends the DoJ's transparency.
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bigredfish
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LOL
Dershowitz contradicts himself no less than 3 times about the existence of “the list”
I explained “the list” in a previous post so I’m going to waste my breath. People are dicking around with minutia details and word games here .
Thinking that there’s a single piece of paper like a grocery list with everyone of the 2000 names that ARE known to be in Ghislaine’s black book under seal by court order, (see court record) is, well, not that bright
Dershowitz contradicts himself no less than 3 times about the existence of “the list”
I explained “the list” in a previous post so I’m going to waste my breath. People are dicking around with minutia details and word games here .
Thinking that there’s a single piece of paper like a grocery list with everyone of the 2000 names that ARE known to be in Ghislaine’s black book under seal by court order, (see court record) is, well, not that bright
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bigredfish
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So the lying continues out of the Trump administration. Can any of them tell the truth at all?
Remember No tax on Social Security?, yeah it’s still a lie but they keep selling it.
And that pay raise we were promised? Went from $10,000-13,000 depending in the day, welp it’s a lie too.
Shocker I know.
Seems they consider NOT raising your taxes to pre-2017 rates “allows the average family of four to keep an additional $7,600 to $10,900 in take-home pay” a raise.
So no Walter, your pay isn’t going up a fucking nickel. We’re just NOT gonna take $7600-10,200 MORE out of your paycheck.
But wait there’s more!
Because of some vague deregulation of vague industries, we’re going to SAVE you an additional $10,000.
No idea what that is, but I’ll bet you a big fat ribeye and a glass of the new $10,000+ p/bottle Double Eagle Very Rare you won’t be able to physically put any of it in your pocket or pay for my dinner with it.
www.foxnews.com
The bill prevents a $4.5 trillion tax hike on the American people," he wrote in an op-ed published July 4. "This will allow the average worker to keep an additional $4,000 to $7,200 in annual real wages and allow the average family of four to keep an additional $7,600 to $10,900 in take-home pay. Add to this the president’s ambitious deregulation agenda, which could save the average family of four an additional $10,000. For millions of Americans, these savings are the difference between being able to make a mortgage payment, buy a car, or send a child to college."
Remember No tax on Social Security?, yeah it’s still a lie but they keep selling it.
And that pay raise we were promised? Went from $10,000-13,000 depending in the day, welp it’s a lie too.
Shocker I know.
Seems they consider NOT raising your taxes to pre-2017 rates “allows the average family of four to keep an additional $7,600 to $10,900 in take-home pay” a raise.
So no Walter, your pay isn’t going up a fucking nickel. We’re just NOT gonna take $7600-10,200 MORE out of your paycheck.
But wait there’s more!
Because of some vague deregulation of vague industries, we’re going to SAVE you an additional $10,000.
No idea what that is, but I’ll bet you a big fat ribeye and a glass of the new $10,000+ p/bottle Double Eagle Very Rare you won’t be able to physically put any of it in your pocket or pay for my dinner with it.
Here's the money people in each state could pocket under Trump's 'big beautiful bill' savings
White House launched an interactive map showing Americans' savings from Trump's "big, beautiful bill," including wage increases and tax cuts on tips and overtime.
www.foxnews.com
The bill prevents a $4.5 trillion tax hike on the American people," he wrote in an op-ed published July 4. "This will allow the average worker to keep an additional $4,000 to $7,200 in annual real wages and allow the average family of four to keep an additional $7,600 to $10,900 in take-home pay. Add to this the president’s ambitious deregulation agenda, which could save the average family of four an additional $10,000. For millions of Americans, these savings are the difference between being able to make a mortgage payment, buy a car, or send a child to college."
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bigredfish
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There is no “list”
It’s a figure of speech for all of the evidence that would point to names of people.
If everyone is expecting a clean white sheet of paper or an excel sheet with an alphabetical list of names, you’re missing the entire point of what’s going on.
It would be meaningless.
It’s the evidence and perhaps LE notes or docs that may call out specific individuals and it’s likely the culmination of hundreds of pieces of paper and many hours of video, witnesses, etc...
So for Trumps new boogeyman to have have doctored “the list” it would mean falsifying hundreds if not thousands of pages and videos, testimony etc.
The entire idea he put out today is beyond fucking ridiculous and makes me wonder if he’s all there mentally.
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Special post for @bigredfish
Here's the money people in each state could pocket under Trump's 'big beautiful bill' savings
White House launched an interactive map showing Americans' savings from Trump's "big, beautiful bill," including wage increases and tax cuts on tips and overtime.
Dumbest fucking garbage I’ve read today.
See my response a few posts up
Oceanslider
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the Potato-Head in Chief...
www.dailywire.com
EXCLUSIVE: Biden Admission Prompts Bill To Neuter Autopen
Former President Joe Biden’s admission that he did not sign off on each of a large number of pardons before he left office has prompted new legislation that seeks to restrain the use of autopen for signing off on major acts, The Daily Wire can reveal.Rep. Addison McDowell (R-NC) is introducing a...
bigredfish
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bigredfish
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Charlie's going for his 3rd 180 degree turn in 24 hours.
Fucking paid influence grifter fraud.
That's got to be tiring. I mean how would you know what foot to put in which show?
Fucking paid influence grifter fraud.
That's got to be tiring. I mean how would you know what foot to put in which show?
bigredfish
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bigredfish
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They can look you in the face and say one thing and turn around and vote the other way an hour later. Lying is way of life, easy as breathing to them
The Republican Party is a bunch of Frauds and Grifters.
Don't enable them in '26 please
The Republican Party is a bunch of Frauds and Grifters.
Don't enable them in '26 please
bigredfish
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Only two possible reasons for what he says:
1- He's lying to cover for someone, or under orders from someone
2- He's completely lost touch with reality and his ego allows him to think he truly is a divine ruler with a magic wand.
Which is it?
1- He's lying to cover for someone, or under orders from someone
2- He's completely lost touch with reality and his ego allows him to think he truly is a divine ruler with a magic wand.
Which is it?
the Potato-Head in Chief...
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EXCLUSIVE: Biden Admission Prompts Bill To Neuter Autopen
Former President Joe Biden’s admission that he did not sign off on each of a large number of pardons before he left office has prompted new legislation that seeks to restrain the use of autopen for signing off on major acts, The Daily Wire can reveal.Rep. Addison McDowell (R-NC) is introducing a...
Someone spent some time coming up with such a witty acronym:
"Rep. Addison McDowell (R-NC) is introducing a bill called the “Ban on Inkless Directives and Executive Notarizations Act of 2025 (BIDEN) Act” that would amend Title 3 of the U.S. Code to prevent a president from using such a device for signing bills, executive orders, pardons, and commutations."
bigredfish
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Pesky facts keep getting in the way of a good story...
Sybertiger
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Falsifying....hmmm, welcome to Russia, Russia, Russia. Don't tell me that the corrupt in gubermint can't possibly fake a bunch of chit. We are past that.
Sybertiger
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And the uni-party continues to play games with switching roles of good-cop, bad-cop. Wait 24 hours for the musical chairs to switch them around again.
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