Mmm I take your point guys. But I do think this camera is the genuine article and it's more likely that Dahua has changed the hardware. From 2013 to 2017 I bought at least 40 Dahua cameras (for several BI systems) - all branded and ordered through Win Vision Technology Ltd, a supplier with every accreditation known to man! Dahua does upgrade their hardware, for example I bought 4 x HFW8231E-Z in 2016 for my home system that can no longer have FW updates because of this. Since late 2017 I've bought $2,000 worth of cameras from Andy but have now thrown in the towel and only have my system at home to worry about.