Video removed - FedEx drives over neighbor's dog, no brakes, doesn't stop

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  1. Rakin

    Rakin Getting the hang of it

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    I haven’t read all the responses but let me way in as a utility worker. I encounter this all the time. At the very least dogs chasing and getting in front of truck in the road is a major annoyance. And a lot of the time it is a danger to the guys working for a living providing you a service and anyone else.

    Swerving can cause you to lose control and run off the road or another vehicle, especially on a dirt road in a heavy truck.

    Tapping or hitting the breaks doesn’t always seem to be of help when the dog(s) are chasing and getting in front either, because then they all get in front.

    Stopping to render aid or let the owner know, bad idea for the driver. The dog or other dogs can and will attack you, and the owners are liable to attack you also.

    I’ve ran over several dogs, not because I wanted to but because the dogs and their owners didn’t give me a choice. I stopped one time to render aid and let owner know, I was young in my career, and it didn’t go well. Never again did I ever stop, it just wasn’t worth it to put my safety at risk.

    This is totally the dog owners fault to let dogs roam that chase cars. My advice is to put your dogs up and as the neighbor maybe not get so wrapped up with emotion for your neighbors own negligence.
     
  2. Rakin

    Rakin Getting the hang of it

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    My sympathies are for the sub driver. Irresponsible emotional dog owner and neighbors put her in danger and are now going to try to cause her her job. No wonder no union drivers will run your route. It’s a dog that was let to play in the street. All the county people I know who have free roaming dogs just know that sometimes they get run over. The people move on and get another dog that eventually runs off and gets run over.


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  3. NoloC

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    Yes we have had that problem here as well. They get paid less than UPS since they are not union and sometimes it can be difficult for the contractor to find good drivers. I am also rural and my dogs chase the truck when they are on my property and that could be about 500 feet. Drivers are careful with the dogs. If you are afraid of dogs, maybe this isn't your calling. Not stopping after running the dog over or at least reporting the isuue makes this driver negligent and should be immediately dismissed. Sorry for the dog owner.

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    Assume you are in a union?
     
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    Rakin Getting the hang of it

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    Yes I am although unions aren’t anything they once were and really doesn’t change anything on this.

    The company I work for is a huge corporation. We are constantly doing safety training and covering policy and incidents all the time in an effort to keep us all safe. The big takeaway for this is don’t swerve off the road and don’t stop and get out of the vehicle for your own safety. I deal with this all the time. I make every effort to keep from running over a dog just short of putting a bullet in its head.


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    Netwalker Young grasshopper

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    I understand the drivers frustration. Pet owners should not have them if they cannot keep their animals off the road, but complacency in running over domestic animals has no part in our civilized society.

    Shame on the drivers that think otherwise.
     
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  7. Rakin

    Rakin Getting the hang of it

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    Well I agree one shouldn’t get satisfaction over running over pets.


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    I've not seen nor want to see the video, but this is the owner of the dogs responsibility.
    I'm as big an animal lover as anyone, but, you have to do your part to protect them.
    Too many today don't have a clue as to what personal responsibility means. Blame someone else.
    Several years ago, I saw my neighbors dog run out of the front door, into the street and under the rear wheels of the UPS truck.
    The UPS driver was upset, he stopped.
    I knew the driver, he told me that he had warned the dogs owner several times that the dog could get hurt.
    The last warning by the driver was given the previous day.
    Dogs owner was inconsolable, tried to blame the UPS driver.
    It's like people leaving babies/toddlers in the back seat of the car, while they go to work, and the child dies.
    Come on, really?
    It's a sad state of affairs when this is posted on Walmart's doors.
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  9. Ckb3

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    For the record, FedEx is a non union company.
     
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    pal251 Pulling my weight

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    Love dogs here but as someone with experience with these matters nothing will happen to the driver legally. Maybe FedEx would give some money as good faith or for generositys sake but definitely not required. It's a terrible thing for the dog but it does happen.
     
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    Thanks for the bump. Just a little update. FedEx ground, is an entirely separate company from FedEx priority. Initially, their insurer was stand-off-ish with the dog owner. When owner told him what happened, the insurance guy seemed annoyed, put-off, and said he didn't have time to investigate the details - insisting that the dog owner do the research for him with the local facility. When he was provided with a copy of the video, his demeanor changed 100% and he said he'd make it his top priority to interview everyone involved. Seemed genuine, according to neighbor.

    In the interim, I was looking at ways that he could approach management, and offer to sell the video to them to avoid it going viral, and perhaps to use it as a training aid for their drivers - on how not to handle accidents involving pets. But, that apparently runs afoul of extortion claims - so that idea is probably dead on arrival.

    Still, if they agree to compensate him, whether just for vet bills, or something more, if they require a non-disclosure agreement, I don't think it'd be unreasonable to ask for additional compensation since we'd be surrendering rights to the video.

    In any case, I'm glad that FedEx is continuing the dialog, and giving the appearance of concern. I suspect we'd not have gotten this far without the video.
     
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    Wow, just wow.
     
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    Yeah, this is just thinking out loud. Really, the idea stems from what to say/do if they make compensation contingent on non-disclosure of the video. Maybe that wouldn't happen. But if it did, then what is the next thing said?
     
  14. Rakin

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    Well I have an idea what I would do if I was a fed ex driver and had more packages to deliver after all of this. They would all be marked undeliverable.


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    IANAL, but I think you just stated, in public, that you're considering committing extortion blackmail. Perhaps even conspiracy to commit extortion blackmail.

    I suspect that was what Walrus' "Wow, just wow" was all about.
     
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    Agreed. The idea is abandoned.
     
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    It's actually not extortion, it's blackmail.
     
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    Right you are. (Told y'all I wasn't a lawyer ;).)
     
  19. erkme73

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    Ok fellas. You've all made your point. The idea was a bad one, borne of the desire to help expedite things and help the neighbor. Clearly it wasn't thought through enough before asking for opinons. I agree that it runs afoul of the law and conveys a level of ill-intent that, quite frankly, isn't there or intended. Sometimes you ask questions that shouldn't be asked, and you get answers that are deservedly harsh.

    Thanks for setting me straight, but at this point no need to keep piling on. Message received loud and clear. This horse is as dead as the dog.
     
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    There's no "piling on," @erkme73. I made a point. It was in error. @Walrus corrected me. I acknowledged the correction and amended my original comments.