Wall Mount Dilemma
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I personally don't like the look of a wall mounted racks. They simply stick out too far and unless you can mount them really high they are always in the way. When they are mounted high enough to be out of the way, they are a pain to get to and make changes......
They do make vertical hanging brackets that allow you to mount switches so they hang vertically and only stick out from the wall the amount that they are "tall". Get a 2-4u shallow (like 4-6" deep) bracket to mount your patch panel on, and then use the vertical brackets to hang the switches below them. It takes up far less space IMHO. Basically something like this:
Obviously you'll still have to figure out where to put the computers, but a shelf mounted to the wall should work very well for that purpose.
They do make vertical hanging brackets that allow you to mount switches so they hang vertically and only stick out from the wall the amount that they are "tall". Get a 2-4u shallow (like 4-6" deep) bracket to mount your patch panel on, and then use the vertical brackets to hang the switches below them. It takes up far less space IMHO. Basically something like this:
Obviously you'll still have to figure out where to put the computers, but a shelf mounted to the wall should work very well for that purpose.
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I have bought and received the 2U server. Updated the BIOS, IMPI and installed what it can only handle Windows Server 2012 R2. Has 6x 2TB drives, 2 GB NIC ports.
I totally understand about the issue with wall mount. I consider the mechanical room as a wet area and prefer the electronics to be high off the ground. I believe after everyone's input I will go with either of these two server racks. It is a matter of the weight that determines which. I asked an engineer friend, and I will use a unistrut installed horizontally to spread the ~600lbs potential weight across the hollow(!!!) cmu wall. And I will most likely use Hilti 270 adhesive solution for the 10 anchors into the wall (5 top row, 5 bottom row).
SRW12US33 with 250lbs capacity:
www.tripplite.com
SRW12UHD with 500lbs capacity:
www.tripplite.com
I totally understand about the issue with wall mount. I consider the mechanical room as a wet area and prefer the electronics to be high off the ground. I believe after everyone's input I will go with either of these two server racks. It is a matter of the weight that determines which. I asked an engineer friend, and I will use a unistrut installed horizontally to spread the ~600lbs potential weight across the hollow(!!!) cmu wall. And I will most likely use Hilti 270 adhesive solution for the 10 anchors into the wall (5 top row, 5 bottom row).
SRW12US33 with 250lbs capacity:
12U Server Rack Cabinet, Server-Depth, Wall-Mount | Eaton
Wall-mount cabinet secures and organizes 12U of 19-inch rack equipment in network closets, classrooms and other locations with limited floor space. Houses equipment up to 32.5 inches deep, including 1U servers.
SRW12UHD with 500lbs capacity:
12U Server Rack Cabinet, Server-Depth, Wall-Mount, Side-Mount | Eaton
12U Server Rack Cabinet, Server-Depth, Wall-Mount, Side-Mount.
Wall mounting is ok, as long as the heat is exhausted up. Otherwise the heat will get trapped in the CPU.
I like adjustable open frame type. And they are not too expensive:I have bought and received the 2U server. Updated the BIOS, IMPI and installed what it can only handle Windows Server 2012 R2. Has 6x 2TB drives, 2 GB NIC ports.
I totally understand about the issue with wall mount. I consider the mechanical room as a wet area and prefer the electronics to be high off the ground. I believe after everyone's input I will go with either of these two server racks. It is a matter of the weight that determines which. I asked an engineer friend, and I will use a unistrut installed horizontally to spread the ~600lbs potential weight across the hollow(!!!) cmu wall. And I will most likely use Hilti 270 adhesive solution for the 10 anchors into the wall (5 top row, 5 bottom row).
SRW12US33 with 250lbs capacity:
12U Server Rack Cabinet, Server-Depth, Wall-Mount | Eaton
Wall-mount cabinet secures and organizes 12U of 19-inch rack equipment in network closets, classrooms and other locations with limited floor space. Houses equipment up to 32.5 inches deep, including 1U servers.
SRW12UHD with 500lbs capacity:
12U Server Rack Cabinet, Server-Depth, Wall-Mount, Side-Mount | Eaton
12U Server Rack Cabinet, Server-Depth, Wall-Mount, Side-Mount.
12U Adjustable Depth Open Frame Swing Out Wall Mount Rack - 301 Series, Flat Packed
Organize your networking equipment with our 301 series 12u adjustable depth open frame wall mount racks.
www.computercablestore.com
I am definitely leaning towards the HD version because it has fans, and the mount is long side which gives me access to both ends. The MEC room does get hot and cold as seasons change. I have a heater but not an AC. Let me get the wash turned back on and a few cars in the bays before I tackle the internal temp of the mech room.
Regarding the adjustable, do you think dust and debris could be an issue? The price is nice!
I like adjustable open frame type. And they are not too expensive:
12U Adjustable Depth Open Frame Swing Out Wall Mount Rack - 301 Series, Flat Packed
Organize your networking equipment with our 301 series 12u adjustable depth open frame wall mount racks.
I just noticed its depth limit! That was the other thing about wall mounts. There are few options for the ~30" server
Yes , I just notice you bought one of those. The 2U servers are designed to fit into 36-37" deep racks.
Open frame I use to rack Hikvision NVRs.
I would assemble a computer from scratch for a BI/computer NVR using this or a similar case: Rosewill RSV-R4000U 4U Server Chassis Rackmount Case | 8 3.5" HDD Bays, 3 5.25" Devices | ATX, CEB Compatible | 2 Front 120mm Fans, 2 Rear 80mm Fans | USB 3.0, 2.0 | Front Panel Lock | Silver/Black - Newegg.com
I'm pot committed to this server for under $500. I guess I could transplant. But it's really a good start. The tripp depth is 32.5"
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Micro ATX Form factor.
You can even get away with a rackmount workstation case:
Sliger CX4150a | 4U 15" Short Depth Rackmount Chassis | ATX PSU | ATX Motherboard | 8x PCIe Slot Cutouts | 1x USB C & 2x USB A | Gaming PC | Made In USA - Newegg.com
Buy Sliger CX4150a | 4U 15" Short Depth Rackmount Chassis | ATX PSU | ATX Motherboard | 8x PCIe Slot Cutouts | 1x USB C & 2x USB A | Gaming PC | Made In USA with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!
I see your logic, $300 for the case, $200 for the rack puts me at $500 where the other way I would be at $700-900. Soo what about power supply?
Power supply is a standard ATX type. As far as swappable drives, If you really want those bays, I would just cut that case down and mount it above the CPU case with its cover off and run the wires down to the motherboard. But I never seen the real need for hot swappable drives with SATA drives unless you running a data server running stripe+redundant. There are two hard drive controllers on that board two SATA 6Gb and four SATA 3gb ports. I would put the OS on a 2.5" ssd on a 6GB port and the rest Mechanical WD purples. But these controllers+BIOS might not take a drive bigger than 3TB which that is probably why they dumped them so cheaply.
Where was all this knowledge 3 weeks ago? Now what, try to return it on Ebay and build a custom machine? I think I would end up higher cost to recreate.
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If you want to keep the server you bought and mount it to a wall, you could use something like this to mount it vertically.
6U Wall Mount Patch Panel Bracket – 19 in – Steel - Vertical Mounting Bracket for Networking and Dat
Mount server, network or telecommunications devices vertically with this 6U wall-mountable rack
www.startech.com
Not necessarily that exact model, you would need to make sure it could support the weight but something along those lines.
Your server seems to have come with mounting rails so I would suggest a pair of the above items. One for the front of the server and one for the rear.
Realize that the case you linked to has no provision for HDDs. I states:Micro ATX Form factor.
You can even get away with a rackmount workstation case:
Sliger CX4150a | 4U 15" Short Depth Rackmount Chassis | ATX PSU | ATX Motherboard | 8x PCIe Slot Cutouts | 1x USB C & 2x USB A | Gaming PC | Made In USA - Newegg.com
Buy Sliger CX4150a | 4U 15" Short Depth Rackmount Chassis | ATX PSU | ATX Motherboard | 8x PCIe Slot Cutouts | 1x USB C & 2x USB A | Gaming PC | Made In USA with fast shipping and top-rated customer service. Once you know, you Newegg!www.newegg.com
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