What is the best hardware for BI? Really?

[klaparp]

I´ve been thinking about this a lot and information is hard to find.

What if I have all the money, what would be the optimal hardware to run BlueIris on. Reasonable, no NASA shit.

I have VMWare with 2x6550 Xeons and lots of memory. It runs fine with 25 cameras from 720-5MP. I know you dont recommend it but its there, why not use it.

I got a brand new i5-6400 and it sucks at 5 cameras.

I have several systems on Dell Optiplex with old I5-2400 and thy run just fine at 6-10 cameras.


This is a bit confusing, the old cpu is much faster then the brand new so what would be the perfect setup and what, if anything is recommended to save money on, less cpu?

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[fenderman]

I got a brand new i5-6400 and it sucks at 5 cameras.

This is because you are running the demo which does not support direct to disk or hardware acceleration. Also the number of cameras is not a deciding factor, the resolution and frame rate play huge roles.
6550 xeons are power hogs and a waste of money...would be cheaper to replace it- that is why its not recommended...you are literately burning money - put a killawatt meter on it and see for yourself. A single i5-6500 is way more powerful than a dual cpu 6550.

 

[klaparp]

You are wrong and you are wrong.
I run full version on all systems
I run the server in a 2GW windmill, yes its big but the power is free for internal use. The I5-6400 is a real waste of money since CPU peaks at 80-99%

 

[klaparp]

Oh, I have the xeon server on meter. I tips 120-140W do IF i had to pay the bill IT would be the the non return-sold enegy price... yeah about 50 bucks a year. Back to the question: what would make a good server?

 

[fenderman]

You are wrong and you are wrong.
I run full version on all systems
I run the server in a 2GW windmill, yes its big but the power is free for internal use. The I5-6400 is a real waste of money since CPU peaks at 80-99%

You don't know what you're talking about. if the CPU is peaking at 80% then you have something configured wrong you obviously don't know what you're doing. Once again you failed the state the cameras you are using on the resolution. The I5 6400 is much more powerful then your dual CPU 7 year old power hog... that's not my opinion it's fact based on benchmarking and the fact that the Skylake processor supports Hardware acceleration.. so instead of acting like a know-it-all why don't you let us help you figure out what you're doing wrong

 

[klaparp]

There are 2-3pcs 4mp and 1-2 1,3mp cameras running 15fps. Its not a lot. I can provide teamviewer Access for the right person at a later point. Brand new, nothing else installera, win10 home, full bi license, 8gb ram

 

[fenderman]

There are 2-3pcs 4mp and 1-2 1,3mp cameras running 15fps. Its not a lot. I can provide teamviewer Access for the right person at a later point. Brand new, nothing else installera, win10 home, full bi license, 8gb ram

did you set each camera to direct to disc? did you enable hardware acceleration? are you remoting in via a remote desktop app?

 

[bp2008]

If PassMark scores are anything to go by, the two Xeons together are nearly equal in processing power to the i5-6400 by itself. And the TDP of the two Xeons is 4 times the TDP of the i5 (260 watts vs 65 watts). Consider the i5-6400's ability to do hardware accelerated decoding, and the i5 should be something like twice as capable, once Blue Iris is configured properly. Direct to disk, h.264 streams, and h.264 hardware accelerated decoding are crucial for good performance. Also a small live preview frame rate limit if you have the GUI open normally, because BI is super inefficient at drawing video to the screen.

The most ideal CPU for Blue Iris is currently the i7-7700K. You may surpass it with some very high end multi-socket xeon systems, but by that point you're running a huge, noisy, power hungry, and very expensive beast of a machine and you'd be wiser to spend that money on a different NVR software package that isn't so resource intensive.

 

[fenderman]

Oh, I have the xeon server on meter. I tips 120-140W do IF i had to pay the bill IT would be the the non return-sold enegy price... yeah about 50 bucks a year. Back to the question: what would make a good server?

i5-6500, set up properly...
did you measure under load? for 100 dollars you can get a used system more powerful and using only 50 or so watts. i5-6500 will use 25w under the same load.

 

[klaparp]

There are differences in the specs that might explain some of it

• ntel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor Intel® Graphics 2000
• Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor Intel® HD Graphics 530
• Graphics Base Frequency350 MHz - 850 MHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor850 MHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor350 MHz
• Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency1.1 GHz, 950 MHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor1.1 GHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor950 MHz
• Intel® Quick Sync VideoYes

 

[klaparp]

did you set each camera to direct to disc? did you enable hardware acceleration? are you remoting in via a remote desktop app?

All is bvr, Direct to disc an h264 with hardware acceleration enablef

 

[klaparp]

Never mind the xeon machine. Explain Wh the old i5-2400 outperforms the i5-6400 and what i should get to replace them

 

[fenderman]

Never mind the xeon machine. Explain Wh the old i5-2400 outperforms the i5-6400 and what i should get to replace them

because you are doing something wrong...why dont you answer whether you are logging in remotely?
Look, its FACT that the 6400 is much more powerful, so that leaves YOU as the culprit...

 

[fenderman]

There are differences in the specs that might explain some of it

• ntel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor Intel® Graphics 2000
• Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor Intel® HD Graphics 530
• Graphics Base Frequency350 MHz - 850 MHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor850 MHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor350 MHz
• Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency1.1 GHz, 950 MHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-2400 Processor1.1 GHz
• Intel® Core™ i5-6400 Processor950 MHz
• Intel® Quick Sync VideoYes

explains none of it...the 6400 is a better processor in every way. User error is the problem.

 

[klaparp]

You are so humble! I run it local or by vnc, same result

 

[klaparp]

Teamviewer i meant

 

[fenderman]

You are so humble! I run it local or by vnc, same result

then you are doing something very wrong...check your settings again. Post your settings.
Do you disable the vnc connection when testing local?

 

[fenderman]

Teamviewer i meant

do you disable the connection when testing local?
also, you say its the same result which is impossible since teamviewer adds a TON of cpu usage to video streaming software like blue iris.

 

[klaparp]

Yes

 

[klaparp]

ill get the settings tomorrow