Which CCTV systems will interchange with a Dahua system?

[Gimmons]

Something like an intel i350 dual nic will work with almost anything. I think these usually take an x4 pcie slot, but you can find other nics that take an x1 slot. I’m surprised your old hp tower doesn’t have a suitable pcie slot.

Yes, let us know how it comes together.

 

[QuattroZ]

Something like an intel i350 dual nic will work with almost anything. I think these usually take an x4 pcie slot, but you can find other nics that take an x1 slot. I’m surprised your old hp tower doesn’t have a suitable pcie slot.

Yes, let us know how it comes together.

I had a look. 3 PCI slots. It's too old for PCIe.

 

[QuattroZ]

I had a look. 3 PCI slots. It's too old for PCIe.

Strikes me that I could resurrect one of my old Pentium P4 computers and network the cameras into it, without the computer being connected to the Internet. I could connect an n pole PoE switch to its network socket. Load Blue Iris and off we go or have I missed something?

 

[TonyR]

From => Home - Blue Iris Software

Minimum System Requirements

• Pentium dual-core or equivalent 2GHz processor or better
• 8GB or more system RAM
• Microsoft Windows 7 or newer OS (equivalent server OS as well)
• One or more USB or Network IP cameras, or an analog capture card with DirectShow drivers

 

[QuattroZ]

Minimum System Requirements

• Pentium dual-core or equivalent 2GHz processor or better
• 8GB or more system RAM
• Microsoft Windows 7 or newer OS (equivalent server OS as well)
• One or more USB or Network IP cameras, or an analog capture card with DirectShow drivers

Thanks Tony. I looked at some Blue Iris threads earlier and it appears the program won't run on my AMD computer. I'll have a look at s/h Win 10 computers on ebay.

 

[TonyR]

Thanks Tony. I looked at some Blue Iris threads earlier and it appears the program won't run on my AMD computer. I'll have a look at s/h Win 10 computers on ebay.

AFAIK, you don't have to use Intel's QuickSync now that BI can work with substreams.

But looking at some gen 8 or above Intel-based PC's is not a bad idea.

 

[QuattroZ]

Thanks for that

 

[QuattroZ]

Here is the spec. and blurb sheet together with an image I captured today of a police patrol car - the only one I have ever seen since we were burgled almost exactly a year ago!!! When you have all stopped laughing, I can tell you I bought this setup at least 15years ago.
The camera ,mounted on the front left side of the garage is showing its age-(about a third of the IR lights have failed) and the number plate of the car was about 19ft from the lens.
Currently the DVR is in the garage along with an old HP screen whose age is also indeterminate, but it works. You can see from the blurb that the cam is a 720 x 576 . Is it worth buying a more modern cam which will be compatible with the DVR as an interim measure before I start digging a 35ft long slot for the cables from the house to the garage for the new setup.

 

[QuattroZ]

AFAIK, you don't have to use Intel's QuickSync now that BI can work with substreams.

But looking at some gen 8 or above Intel-based PC's is not a bad idea.

I emailed Blue Iris :
"Is there any particular reason why Blue Iris should not work on my Ryzen5-5600G based on an ASUS Prime B450M-k II motherboard?(see attachment).
" A guy on the IPCamTalk forum thinks I don't have to use QuickSync now BI uses substreams."
and the reply said:
"While Intel and Nvidia are nice to have as extra tools to help keep CPU usage down, you are correct that only the sub stream is continuously decoded now, so this has become less critical.

I would go with community recommendations on hardware, as that is not my primary focus."

If that isn't recognition of this forum's collective expertise..............
The bottom line being I can proceed with buying Blue Iris, a Dual NIC - then it comes down to cameras. I take it the dual NIC prevent the second network from seeing the network which is already connected to the internet. I'll bone up on this. If I am forced to buy Chinese cameras, I don't want them phoning home.
I looked some cameras not made in China and the prices range between £400 and £2000. I'll have another look on ebay.

 

[TonyR]

I emailed Blue Iris :
"Is there any particular reason why Blue Iris should not work on my Ryzen5-5600G based on an ASUS Prime B450M-k II motherboard?(see attachment).
" A guy on the IPCamTalk forum thinks I don't have to use QuickSync now BI uses substreams."
and the reply said:
"While Intel and Nvidia are nice to have as extra tools to help keep CPU usage down, you are correct that only the sub stream is continuously decoded now, so this has become less critical.

I would go with community recommendations on hardware, as that is not my primary focus."

If that isn't recognition of this forum's collective expertise..............
The bottom line being I can proceed with buying Blue Iris, a Dual NIC - then it comes down to cameras. I take it the dual NIC prevent the second network from seeing the network which is already connected to the internet. I'll bone up on this. If I am forced to buy Chinese cameras, I don't want them phoning home.
I looked some cameras not made in China and the prices range between £400 and £2000. I'll have another look on ebay.

Yes, there was a time when QuickSync (Intel's trademarked built-in hardware acceleration of many of its CPU's) was essential for the BI server's efficiency in processing video. The advent of substream usage in BI 3(?) years ago made QS not as mandatory.

I personally still suggest at least an Intel generation 8 or above i5 CPU with 16GB RAM, a SSD for Windows 10 or 11, the BI program and BI's "db" folder and a spinnning surveillance-rated HDD (such as WD Purple) for BI's video clips.

Perform a clean install of Windows on the SSD using the MS Media Creation Tool on a USB flash drive.

Optimize BI and deploy sub streams as found in the IPCT Wiki below:

Optimizing Blue Iris's CPU Usage

Blue Iris uses a lot of CPU time. In most Blue Iris installations, your CPU is the limiting factor which determines how many cameras you can have. As such, it is extremely important to optimize your configuration to ensure you can get the most out of your system while consuming the least...

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[QuattroZ]

This my computer's spec apart from the SSD which is 500Gb. If I bought an intel with Win11 why would I need a clean install - or is this to clear out any viruses etc? I have a WD 1Tb disc in the old Everfocus so I could use that whatever I do. I am now going to look on ebay.

 

[wittaj]

View attachment 212969This my computer's spec apart from the SSD which is 500Gb. If I bought an intel with Win11 why would I need a clean install - or is this to clear out any viruses etc? I have a WD 1Tb disc in the old Everfocus so I could use that whatever I do. I am now going to look on ebay.

While you will still get the Windows bloatware as part of the Media Creation Tool, the reason to do a clean install is to get rid of manufacturer bloatware and restrictions on drivers.

Many times the manufacturers have modified drivers and wreak havoc with BI (especially older versions) and we have it all documented in the wiki on stable drivers, but the Windows installed on the computer wouldn't let you install a clean driver that would fix the issue.

 

[QuattroZ]

While you will still get the Windows bloatware as part of the Media Creation Tool, the reason to do a clean install is to get rid of manufacturer bloatware and restrictions on drivers.

Many times the manufacturers have modified drivers and wreak havoc with BI (especially older versions) and we have it all documented in the wiki on stable drivers, but the Windows installed on the computer wouldn't let you install a clean driver that would fix the issue.

I'm all set up for that - I was thinking about upgrading the computer I'm on to Win 11 - which it wouldn't do when the upgrade was almost automatic but it's on the backburner at the moment. I'll look at the wiki link.
In the mean time, any experience/knowledge of Zosi cctv cams? They are quite cheap, and they must be better than my Everfocus - see post 48......

 

[QuattroZ]

What about this ?

i7-9700K, 16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Nvidia Quadro P4000, ASRock Z370? bidding currently at £40.​

 

[wittaj]

That computer should be good.

Zosi cameras are not ONVIF and could be problematic getting into BI.

I am sure there are some hacks or workarounds, but you will spend more time than needed and then all the time with setting up eliminating false triggers.

 

[QuattroZ]

That computer should be good.

Zosi cameras are not ONVIF and could be problematic getting into BI.

I am sure there are some hacks or workarounds, but you will spend more time than needed and then all the time with setting up eliminating false triggers.

I thought the Zosi prices were too good to be true! re the i7 9700K, there are over 6days to run, so I am watching it. Meanwhile I am trying address the operation of a dual network card - specifically having one network connected to the internet and the other protected by a firewall, having the cameras on it while still being able to update the camera software....

 

[wittaj]

The dual NIC is the way to go. Around $20USD to throw the card in the computer and hook all the cameras to one ethernet port and the internet to the other.

Or if the computer has wifi in it, use the ethernet for the cameras and the wifi for the internet.

 

[QuattroZ]

So it's that simple!!!