Wich 180 degree Camera is very good for recording soccer games?

[Jeremias__]

Hello friends,
currently I am trying to create a product where you can record your football games. I already did the coding cam and created a prototype with a very expensive cam. The price tag from that cam is at 1k dollars. I want to use a cheaper one, wich one is very good for creating a very good/high quality outdoor video with the range of 180 degree. I have a budget from 300 to 900 dollars.
Thx for every awnser

 

[wittaj]

What is your use case - just casual observe or be able to identify players and the action? These cameras may or may not be able to accomplish what you want. With the small focal length you probably won't be able to read player numbers for example. And then the splicing of the two lens could be problematic.

In all likelihood surveillance cameras are not designed for that type of capture that you are looking for. Most will cap out at 30FPS but may be glitchy and problematic running at that speed.

They would make okay cameras for general overview type things, but thisbisnt their intended purpose.

Along those lines, these types of cameras are not GoPro or Hollywood type cameras that offer slow-mo capabilities and other features. They "offer" 30FPS and 60FPS to appease the general public that thinks that is what they need, but you will not find many of us here running more than 15 FPS; and movies are shot at 24 FPS, so anything above that is a waste of storage space for what these cameras are used for. If 24 FPS works for the big screen, I think 15 FPS is more than enough for phones and tablets and most monitors LOL. Many of my cameras are running at 12FPS.

If your unique case requires a higher FPS, you will find surveillance cameras are not going to meet your needs and you need to get a camera capable of that - and spend some serious money if a gopro isn't sufficient.

We have had recently people come here after purchasing cameras in two instances where they were wanting 60FPS - one was a tennis club and another was a youth soccer club.

Even with the higher FPS, In both cases they found that these types of cameras were not capable of what they were wanting to do. Sure the cameras could run faster FPS, but it still didn't provide them with the level of detail they were looking for.

I recall the soccer club had a decent quality PTZ ($800) that is fine for a residential or retail/commercial installation to capture a thief, but to cover the action of the soccer field it wasn't capable of meeting their needs. And because of the extremely fast motion, it was creating a halo type effect around the action (which can be seen in certain lighting conditions). These cameras are good, but not good enough to catch the rotation of a ball for example.

Another came here trying to use this cameras for a race track in the pit stalls to monitor lug nuts and violations and it just couldn't do it.

 

[Jeremias__]

What is your use case - just casual observe or be able to identify players and the action? These cameras may or may not be able to accomplish what you want. With the small focal length you probably won't be able to read player numbers for example. And then the splicing of the two lens could be problematic.

In all likelihood surveillance cameras are not designed for that type of capture that you are looking for. Most will cap out at 30FPS but may be glitchy and problematic running at that speed.

They would make okay cameras for general overview type things, but thisbisnt their intended purpose.

Along those lines, these types of cameras are not GoPro or Hollywood type cameras that offer slow-mo capabilities and other features. They "offer" 30FPS and 60FPS to appease the general public that thinks that is what they need, but you will not find many of us here running more than 15 FPS; and movies are shot at 24 FPS, so anything above that is a waste of storage space for what these cameras are used for. If 24 FPS works for the big screen, I think 15 FPS is more than enough for phones and tablets and most monitors LOL. Many of my cameras are running at 12FPS.

If your unique case requires a higher FPS, you will find surveillance cameras are not going to meet your needs and you need to get a camera capable of that - and spend some serious money if a gopro isn't sufficient.

We have had recently people come here after purchasing cameras in two instances where they were wanting 60FPS - one was a tennis club and another was a youth soccer club.

Even with the higher FPS, In both cases they found that these types of cameras were not capable of what they were wanting to do. Sure the cameras could run faster FPS, but it still didn't provide them with the level of detail they were looking for.

I recall the soccer club had a decent quality PTZ ($800) that is fine for a residential or retail/commercial installation to capture a thief, but to cover the action of the soccer field it wasn't capable of meeting their needs. And because of the extremely fast motion, it was creating a halo type effect around the action (which can be seen in certain lighting conditions). These cameras are good, but not good enough to catch the rotation of a ball for example.

Another came here trying to use this cameras for a race track in the pit stalls to monitor lug nuts and violations and it just couldn't do it.

hey, we don’t need that much fps, it is planned for quick Taktik analytics in the halftime, or to show clips in the training of what went wrong. The fps should range from 25 to 30 fps.

It is also okay when the cam does not look perfekt in every light scene. I thin it is impossible with two lenses in different direction to show the perfekt video.
It should be the best quality for a good price, where you can see clearly what is happening on the field.

 

[wittaj]

OK. But like I said regardless of FPS, depending on the amount of clarity you need, wirh a fixed 2.8 or 3.6mm lens, the ability to clearly identify what is happening will be difficult. The camera is more of an overview camera. Even the soccer club with an expensive PTZ that they could optically zoom into the action felt it wasn't responsive and clear enough for what they wanted.

Post a screenshot or video clip of what you have been able to produce with the higher priced cam and we will be able to tell you if the 180 cam can accomplish the same thing.

Here is an example of two kids throwing a football from 45 feet from the camera - is this acceptable quality for your use case: