Yard sensors- Laser perimeter sensors or ?

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  1. MMcCawley

    MMcCawley n3wb

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    Hello,

    My family is moving to Uganda in a month where we will work as missionaries for the next couple years. There has been an uptick in home invasions/robberies over the past couple months so in addition to my Lorex camera system, Ring alarm and LED motion detectors I'm looking for additional sensors to notify us if someone has jumped the fence and gained access into our yard.

    Any suggestions on what I should be considering?

    Also, I came across these laser perimeter sensors that are reasonably priced: Solar Powered Photoelectric Beam Barrier Sensor Has anyone tried these and would like to provide some feedback?

    Thanks,
    Matt

    Edit: I think I may have posted this in the wrong forum. Moderator- please move if so. Thanks!
     
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    GCoco Pulling my weight

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    Have you thought of Dakota alert driveway alarms?
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion GCoco. I've looked into similar technology and was a little concerned about false alarms with motion type systems. There's quite a bit of wildlife that will likely be in our yard so I thought they may set off motion type alarms. What are your thoughts?
     
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    JNDATHP Getting the hang of it

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    For two reasons I suggest you rent your home. The first is an occupied home is less likely to invite undesirables and second, most homeowner insurance policies will cancel your policy after 30 days of vacancy.

    Are your perimeters hardscaped meaning that animals won’t trip sensors? It doesn’t sound like it.

    I would probably go with Simply Safe and protect the interior. It’s professionally monitored.

    Here, we mostly use cameras with Blue Iris to trigger events in HomeSeer, our HA software. Our openings are monitored by z-wave door and window devices which trigger events if opened or closed.

    I’m thinking that it would be difficult to monitor and maintain a HA system from Uganda because of no/slow Internet.

    We applaud you for your mission activities. Good luck and stay safe.
     
  5. tangent

    tangent IPCT Contributor

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    To clarify, you're looking for security for your house in the USA and not wherever you'll be in Uganda?

    There are outdoor motion sensors that are pretty reliable, the better ones combine 2-3 motion sensors (1-2 PIR and/or microwave motion).
    I'm not sure I'd try to cover the whole yard or perimeter. I'd focus on closer to the house, especially close to doors. Maybe a dual tech request to exit sensor like the Interlogix/GE RCR-REX (hardwired).

    What sort of wildlife is typically in your yard? Little things like rabbits you may be able to eliminate with a pet immunity setting. You aren't going to eliminate things like deer.

    The beam sensors generally aren't actually laser, I'd go for hardwired over solar/wireless
     
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    I'm sorry for the confusion, the security is for our place in Uganda, not the US. To the best of my knowledge, there is a 360 degree wall that surrounds the property with barbed wire at the top but despite these measures, break-ins are still occurring fairly frequently in similar properties.
     
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    tangent IPCT Contributor

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    Are you buying a home in Uganda or renting (or is it owned by a church / nonprofit)? This could impact what you can do to the property.
    Any photos or a satellite view or even a sketch?
    What lorex camera system do you have?
     
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    Hi Tangent,

    We're renting a home and are fairly open as to what we can do to the property assuming it doesn't negatively impact the property. Aside from a couple photos we have limited information but know someone who has lived on the property recently and did not have any incidences. Attached is an image off Google Maps though the resolution is not great. I have the Lorex 4KHDIP822 system and have ordered 2 Dahua IPC-HDW2231RP-ZS Starlights from Andy.
     

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    Ronnie Bailey Getting the hang of it

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    When I think of Uganda, I see huts with tin roofs....... :)
     
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    Haha, that's there as well. We'll be working out of a city of about 60,000 so it's a little more developed. The house is actually quite nice and the area is beautiful.
     
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    Even thou the Solar Power Photoelectric Beam (link) looks promising, any idea about pricing? As GCoco mentioned, check Dakota Alert BBT-2500 Break Beam Transmitter. Is a wireless/solar powered system, and could be combined up to 4-pairs, creating a criss-cross perimeter of 300FT (max) apart. Even each pair cost about $250, the total solution is around $1K, plus the receiver (DCR-2500, about $80).
     
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    We work with solar powered IR detector beam for about 6 years now. they very reliable if installed correctly.
     

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    Your issue isn't trying to find out if someone is hopping the fence to get into your property there. They will not be put off or stopped by an alarm. The only thing that will stop them is greater violence and being willing, and capable, of using it first. To that end I suggest a Fox Terrier for your alert system, and either Boerboelle (plural of Boerboel) or possibly Rhodesian Ridgebacks for stopping power. Should any of your dogs disappear or die unexpectedly you can expect an attack within days. Africa is not toytown, throw your normal rules and ideas out of they window, because they don't apply there.