New to the world of LPR ... need some help
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Flintstone61
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If you can find a cheap used one, you can learn how they work and the limitations of them over Blue iris systems. Like offloading video in a goofball format, vs. .mov or .mp4 in Blue Iris.
quick timeline reviews in BI, and not as easy in NVR....it was a worthwhile adventure for me as a complete nooB to the camera game.
Then i could truly appreciate the things they were doing with BI.
As home hobbyist i could gone on with a retail store NVR and called it a day.
But being in charge of security at a 74 unit Condo, Bi was a game changer for saving me time reviewing footage daily. i went from spending an hour chasing down an incident to minutes.
But guys like @bigredfish have become proficient with NVr's and use the latest and greatest and have usefull video and data from them.
quick timeline reviews in BI, and not as easy in NVR....it was a worthwhile adventure for me as a complete nooB to the camera game.
Then i could truly appreciate the things they were doing with BI.
As home hobbyist i could gone on with a retail store NVR and called it a day.
But being in charge of security at a 74 unit Condo, Bi was a game changer for saving me time reviewing footage daily. i went from spending an hour chasing down an incident to minutes.
But guys like @bigredfish have become proficient with NVr's and use the latest and greatest and have usefull video and data from them.
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bigredfish
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Well you’ll need either an NVR or a dedicated PC running BI to record to. For your purposes I’d suggest the PC running BI.
I don’t run it myself but plenty of guys here can help you out
Sorry just to be clear - so are you saying an NVR will do something for me or not ?
if so, what would the NVR’s purpose be ? Thank you
Thank You!
Would any NVR do ? Or does it have to be brand specific ?
What do you think of this one ?
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Thank you for all the help! Coming from a Nest cam background it’s a little different here. I have used IP cams in the past too (Foscam) but that was years ago. I found this NVR for cheap , but not sure if it’s any good for the camera in question that Flintsone suggested :
Wirepath™ Surveillance 100 Series NVR
www.snapav.com
I was hoping to start with Open ALR and in parallel move things into my Home Assistant setup which is where I would like to ultimately land. Hence all the questions.
also, on a separate note , I have read through all the prior comments and was wondering - how do I ‘dial in my settings’ is it just trial and error ? Where does one start and is there a tutorial ?
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Yeah, these types of cameras are not like Nest or Foscam LOL.
See my links in Post #4 that includes "starting points", but yes it is just trial and error at some point. Every field of view and lighting situation is different. Even two identical cameras set up side by side can have different numbers once dialed in.
If you have Home Assistant going and plan to do OpenALPR, then just go with BI - way more flexibility and ability to coordinate the two. Many people use Home Assistant and BI instead of an NVR.
See my links in Post #4 that includes "starting points", but yes it is just trial and error at some point. Every field of view and lighting situation is different. Even two identical cameras set up side by side can have different numbers once dialed in.
If you have Home Assistant going and plan to do OpenALPR, then just go with BI - way more flexibility and ability to coordinate the two. Many people use Home Assistant and BI instead of an NVR.
Thank you !
looney2ns
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The cable you ordered, you should send it back and not use it.Got it, so the uplift on processing / bandwith is done on my computer NOT on the cloud? I will look into their requirements a little more as well. Based on your guidance, I just ordered the following:
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It is CCA cable, which WILL cause you problems. You want pure copper cable.
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Thanks, do you have a product link i could use perhaps? What kind of problems will it cause?
looney2ns
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Make sure your password is a simple one and do not have @ in it.
You need to select generic protocol and put in the IP address of the camera
It will take several takes of hitting the test before it will find it.
Thank you for coming to my rescue. My password is alphanumeric and about 15 cars in length, it does not have an @ symbol.
Are you advising to use the autodiscovery feature or the manual entry instead?
For manual entry i see it advises this format: rtsp:/username
assword@ip_addressort_number/some/unique/extension or a swap to http:// which i think would be for my camera. But for the life of me i can not figuire out what the /some/unique/extension should be ?Manual entry is the best, and even then it will take a few pushes of the test.
Try this, where you replace user, password, IP address with yours:
And then once you figure that out, do this tool:
ipcamtalk.com
Try this, where you replace user, password, IP address with yours:
Code:
rtsp:/USERNAME:PASSWORD@IPADDRESS:554/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0And then once you figure that out, do this tool:
OpenALPR Tool - Save and Query CSV Exports Steps I took To Get Mine Working. ZERO Programming Experience.
The LPR_Viewer and LPR_Downloader are free Windows programs designed by @Gymratz & @DLONG2 which allow you to automatically collect, store, view and manage plate data from your IP cameras. It does require a $5 a month subscription to the 'Watchman' plan available at OpenALPR.com. Also there is...
Manual entry is the best, and even then it will take a few pushes of the test.
Try this, where you replace user, password, IP address with yours:
Code:rtsp:/USERNAME:PASSWORD@IPADDRESS:554/cam/realmonitor?channel=1&subtype=0
And then once you figure that out, do this tool:
OpenALPR Tool - Save and Query CSV Exports Steps I took To Get Mine Working. ZERO Programming Experience.
The LPR_Viewer and LPR_Downloader are free Windows programs designed by @Gymratz & @DLONG2 which allow you to automatically collect, store, view and manage plate data from your IP cameras. It does require a $5 a month subscription to the 'Watchman' plan available at OpenALPR.com. Also there is...
Thank you for all your help. That did not work either. Do you think it has to be H264 instead of H265? also does RTSP have to be enabled some how?