Parley
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I can't wait for the point when the guy with 5 vaccine shots blames the guy with only 3 vaccine shots for spreading Covid. 
Pandemic threat? Anyone else concerned?
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bigredfish
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So Denmark, where it’s going nuts
71,000 cases among vaxxed/boosted
22,000 cases in the control group un-vaxxed
and
The Omicron loves the vaxxed (79.3%) but apparently doesn’t like the taste of the unvaxxed (8.5%)?
bigredfish
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I suppose in fairness that Denmark is heavily vaxxed so the proportions make sense… but
So tell me again why I should get jabbed?
So tell me again why I should get jabbed?
The bulk of the population in Denmark is 77% fully vaxed, it will skew the numbers but the bottom line is the new variant clearly is infectious to vaxed and unvaxed. This is going to spread at a rate much higher than Delta based on what we are seeing out of Africa, the UK, and Denmark, all are the hardest hit in early numbers. We won't know for a couple weeks how it plays out as hospitalization (and death) are lagging factors. Also, for those previously infected, which is a lot, we can hope and assume they will shake this off without lots of issues. We will know a lot more in a week.
Vaccination should be a choice for everyone based upon their circumstances.
Here are some current Florida numbers;
Oceanslider
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I can't wait for the point when the guy with 5 vaccine shots blames the guy with only 3 vaccine shots for spreading Covid.
ljw2k
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Our right honourable Savid Javid is saying that 90% of people in hospital now with Covid are Unvaccinated , I don't believe this is right and not sure where he got these facts from.
bigredfish
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Totally Agree it’s a personal decision based on a lot of factors. No negativity intended towards those who chose to jab.
Florida is a prime example of why I don’t trust the numbers. Too little data
1- show me jabbed vs un-jabbed by age cohort from say Jan-Nov ‘21 by month. (Few vaxxed early in the year, most who want to have been by say Sept )
2- Show me number diagnosed at hospital who entered for something else
3- show comorbidities (particularly obesity, lung/blood disorders, & diabetic)
4- Then there’s that whole problem of no other common diseases seemingly killing anyone in ‘20- ‘21
5- Theres the problem of Hospitals and doctors getting money for covid deaths. Reimbursement for services sure, but there’s a clear incentive
6- VAERS, Pfizer FDA approval study, etc
Dont they consider “fully vaccinated” only those who have had all their shots along with all the boosters (however many that may be.).
So if I received all my shots, but haven’t gotten my 47th booster for the year I would be considered unvaxed.
ljw2k
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I could not say for sure but I bet he has his finger in the pie also?
And what if you didn't get the 1st shot until after the second booster is readily available? Do you have to play catch up? Or are you considered fully vaxxed two weeks after the second shot?
DependsAnd what if you didn't get the 1st shot until after the second booster is readily available? Do you have to play catch up? Or are you considered fully vaxxed two weeks after the second shot?
Did you test positive? Are you in the hospital because of the fauchi flu? Then you are not fully vaxed.
I‘m guessing for the local diner in NY checking your papers then you’d be ok though.
Theyll consider you whatever they want to consider you to fit their agenda.
Does anyone know how and if they can prove you have gotten the fauchi shot? Besides if you have your card?
Example: If I’m in the hospital, can they look up to find out if I’ve gotten it, or are they just taking your word for it?
Example: If I’m in the hospital, can they look up to find out if I’ve gotten it, or are they just taking your word for it?
I imagine it is up to each State to track in their database, but this is just surmised.
Even doctors lost their credibility. They don't work for the patients anymore. They lack empathy. They work in conjunction with HMO's and Pharmaceutical companies. They don't give a **** about their patients. You are your best doctor. Stay healthy and don't fall for processed food and keep your body moving.
user8963
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any concerns again inactivated vaccines like they use in china?
They will force everyone next year in several countries to take the vaccine.
So there seems no real option to avoid taking it.
Some countries already have database for vaxxers, even harder to avoid taking it .
Not asking for a friend, asking for me
They will force everyone next year in several countries to take the vaccine.
So there seems no real option to avoid taking it.
Some countries already have database for vaxxers, even harder to avoid taking it .
Not asking for a friend, asking for me