Ukraine related: Was Ukraine Government Is Handing Out Guns To Citizens, What Happened to Gun Control?

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in 2004 .. lots of Freedom in Russia .. lots of hope ..
in 2012 .. crack down on freedoms start .. to control opposition .. stepping stones to a Government controls .. ( Authoritarianism coming .. )

" .. then very soon ( 2022 ) new laws appear that made speaking certain things publicly a criminal offense that is prosecuted up to 15 years in prison .. 1st degree murder in Russia is prosecuted less than that .. "

Fear now .. Fear within Russia ..


FEAR IS GROWING IN RUSSIA
 
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Citizens are fleeing "democratic Ukraine" for "authoritarian Russia" because it's safe there.


Meanwhile, in Mariupol, the construction of new residential buildings instead of the destroyed ones is in full swing.

 

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People have been coming to Russia from Ukraine since 2014. A lot of people have arrived in our region. People are not being expelled to Siberia! They were go away from the bombing. Here people get housing, jobs.
 

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CBS removes investigation into illegal arms trade in Ukraine
08 August 2022 14:32
THE WHOLE WORLD
CBS removes investigation into illegal arms trade in Ukraine
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Just yesterday, the American cable giant CBS published its own investigation into the massive embezzlement of military aid that the West sends to the Kyiv regime. But today you will not be able to watch this investigation - it simply disappeared from the news company's website.

The American television company CBS released a 23.5-minute documentary called Arming Ukraine - Arming Ukraine - which quickly became the subject of a scandal. The experts presented in the film claimed that "only 30%" of the aid allocated to Ukraine gets directly to the front line. The rest of the weapons simply leak to the black market.

“All these weapons cross the border [of Ukraine], and then something happens and it’s like 30% of these weapons actually reach their final destination,” Jonas Ochman, CEO of the Lithuanian company Blue-Yellow, which raises funds to sponsor Ukrainian military.
CBS removes investigation into illegal arms trade in Ukraine
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However, today it is already much more difficult to find this film on the Web. It is not on the verified YouTube channel of the CBSNews holding, nor on the website. The only thing left about this film, apart from textual references, is its trailer, which remained on the official CBS channel. The fact that the film really existed and was uploaded to the Web in full is evidenced by the preserved links that led to the page with it. Even a video announcement has been preserved, showing several frames from the film and showing its full timing - 23:30. However, when you try to follow this link, you will see the message "Page not found".

However, the site cbsnews.com still has an article under the heading "Why military aid to Ukraine can't always reach the front lines." The headline of the article indicates that this is an edited version of the material, and that the edits were made on August 7, 2022 at 19:49, that is, after the publication of the film. Such material was first published on the CBS website four days ago. That is, on August 4, before the premiere of the documentary. Probably, the source material was something like a “lead” to a documentary report and was supposed to stir up the interest of the audience. But something went wrong.

CBS removes investigation into illegal arms trade in Ukraine
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You can understand what exactly happened from the already edited text available on the website of the news holding. The opening editor's note reads: "This article has been updated to reflect changes since the CBS Reports documentary Arming Ukraine was produced, and this documentary is also being updated. Jonas Ochman says the delivery has improved a lot since the CBS shoot at the end of April. The Government of Ukraine has indicated that US Defense Attaché Brigadier General Garrick Harmon arrived in Kyiv in August 2022 to control and monitor weapons.”

Thus, the shooting took place in April, but the journalists began to make changes to the material only three months later, only after the premiere of the film. Couldn't Mr. Ohman and other invited experts have been able to correct the script and provide new comments during these three months, if the supply situation (as they claim) began to improve? That is, it was necessary to first publish the announced film, so that later, a day later, “catch on” and hastily start reshaping everything? CBS is a really serious holding that employs professional journalists, so it's hard to believe in such a scenario.

CBS removes investigation into illegal arms trade in Ukraine
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Much more likely is the situation when someone in the "high offices" - Ukrainian and American - after the release of the film was seriously concerned about the potential rehearsal losses from the disclosure of such an unsightly truth, and "politely asked" CBS to remove the materials from the public domain and edit them, behind the scenes. sending a controller from the Pentagon to Ukraine. According to CBS themselves, General Harmon arrived "in August" - that is, he may have flown to Kyiv just at the moment when the editor was making corrections to the text, or even arrived after.

Quite possibly, journalists from CBS really opened up a corruption abscess, and the documentary could significantly spoil the picture of mighty military assistance to Ukraine, which the West and Kyiv are trying to paint for the world. And now they are trying to hush up this story.

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Who said "censorship"? How can there be censorship in a democratic country? And, well, yes - "it's a completely different matter." :facepalm:
 
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Who said "censorship"? How can there be censorship in a democratic country? And, well, yes - "it's a completely different matter."
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Wow, this is even better! One awkward statement in the spirit of "Russians, of course, scoundrels, and we condemn them, but Ukrainians also behave badly" - and that's all, a respected organization becomes Putin's propagandist.

Stories about "freedom of speech" and "atmosphere of fear" are getting funnier.

The Times view on Amnesty International’s Ukraine report: Putin’s Propagandists
 

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interesting discussion on the topic ..

A coup in Ukraine?!
Operator Starsky

 

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I seriously doubt the title is accurate and content are fully accurate.

" .. verge of becoming extinct .. "

Certainly, there are issues as mentioned in the article .. equipment is always lost in battles .. this does not mean it is becoming extinct.

Example USA lost lots of Shermans in WWII .. still did not become extinct ... Soviet lost lots of T-34s .. many even captured by the Germans .. yet ..
 

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Looks like the Russian Air Force has become "extinct"

( ok, perhaps just a bad hit .. < 37 jets, < 6 helicopters .. we'll have to see how many survived .. )



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Looks like the Russian Air Force has become "extinct"

( ok, perhaps just a bad hit .. < 37 jets, < 6 helicopters .. we'll have to see how many survived .. )



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Copied and pasted from BBC regarding the above

  • Ukraine's Air Force command says "about a dozen" Russian warplanes may have been destroyed in explosions at an airfield in Russian-occupied Crimea on Tuesday
 

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Looks like click bait

They can only find 1 source who happens to be captured, in prison and possibly awaiting an incendiary device to be chucked into the barracks who allegedly says something, somewhere via undisclosed media. Smells fishy :D

The rest of the story is really about skills, training, logistics and ebb and flow of battle. Due to circumstances they should acquire skills / training and improve logistics as things go.

Don't forget there was also a 40 mile Russian convoy heading for Kyiv at one stage that was largely destroyed or captured. Rather than conjecture this spectacle was on display for the world to see
 
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Citizens are fleeing "democratic Ukraine" for "authoritarian Russia" because it's safe there.


Meanwhile, in Mariupol, the construction of new residential buildings instead of the destroyed ones is in full swing.

While these buildings should not have been levelled in the first place it seems foolish to build them now. They will be levelled when Ukraine reclaims the city and Russia will have to pay to build them again. I would prioritise rebuilding the hospitals / medical facilities that were destroyed to treat the sick and provision of food, water, clothing, essential services and then residential / schools.

It also seems more a modest venture or a vanity project than full swing. I'm guessing size and method of construction would put it in the £20,000,000 bracket. This is not a lot considering the £billions required.

I'm also guessing the foundations will be subject to ground penetrating radar to ascertain what lies below.
 

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Wow, this is even better! One awkward statement in the spirit of "Russians, of course, scoundrels, and we condemn them, but Ukrainians also behave badly" - and that's all, a respected organization becomes Putin's propagandist.

Stories about "freedom of speech" and "atmosphere of fear" are getting funnier.

The Times view on Amnesty International’s Ukraine report: Putin’s Propagandists
The organisation mentioned and / or other individuals / groupings are free to disagree or criticise as they please without fear or fervour. You mistake opinions, criticism, autonomy of thinking for state sponsored mind control and re-education.

If an individual in Russia questions the state they can expect more than a newspaper column about it. For example see links

This Edit 11-08-22 adds another relevent BBC link






 
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Satellite Photos Show Destruction at Novofedorivka Air Base (Su-30s and Su-24s destroyed)

So—it’s a pretty big loss. 13 aircraft lost by my count, with one which must be heavily damaged. It’s also likely that the other aircraft which don’t look destroyed have picked up some damage too, given the destruction around them.




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What appears to be impact points:

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missing buildings ..
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