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That thought has crossed my mind, too. With the 5442TM-AS performing as well as it does I don't have a lot of motivation for a new project with unknown results. I also like the smaller size of the fixed-focal camera. If I could wave the proverbial magic wand I'd turn all of my cameras into 5442TM-AS and be done with it. Except for the 4k-x that continues to astound me. If the 4k-x would pick up animals it could cause a major conflict in my marriage over money priorities
Andy, you're so knowledgeable about these cameras that I'm insecure to disagree with you, but I'll stick my neck out and do it. After many hours of side by side testing of the 5442, 5231, and 2231, and comparing hundreds of images, I can't think of one good reason to use a 2231 over the 5442TM-AS, other than it doesn't cost quite as much. The 5442's image is so much better with low light, and with the older firmware its animal detection is just as good as the 2231's. Of the cameras I have, the 5231 and 4231 models have the best animal detection, but the 5442TM-AS with the .8.R firmware is very close with the detection, and so much better with the image.
I think what he means is that this camera is the most recent non-AI camera and as such the algorithm doesn't have human encoded in it, so you can actually set a min size for it to trigger on regardless of what the item is. As we know, with the 5442 series, you cannot completely turn off human AI and setting a min target size still takes human into account.
I think what he means that it is the best camera to select that will trigger for animals regardless of the firmware as it is a non-AI model.
I actually looked into that and searched on here a bunch, but couldn't find any good suggestions. Do you have any?
Fair comment. In Andy's position he couldn't recommend changing to an older firmware and have to own the unintended side effects and support. I'm speaking as a user searching out the best solution at the risk of bricking the cameras. The 5442 line is SO much better image-wise that I have a hard time accepting less. I'm asking for trouble with every new camera, changing the firmware, painting it, and soldering over the diode on the 12 volt input to power an external IR light. It's surprising I haven't sent one to the landfill yet.
A good suggestion for shorter distances. I'm picking up animals as far as 300' from the camera which PIR won't do. Before the vehicle detection came along I gave up having the camera catch cars on my driveway and went to magnetic sensors, which has worked out well.
The Hue outdoor motion sensors I use work very well. BUT there's a bunch of integration involved between Hue and Home Assistant and BI (and a bunch of money) to make that work. Not that hard to do if you have the rest in place but not really worth it otherwise. If you have some other home automation system there's likely a way to do it.
Interesting, thanks I'll definitely look into this. I have Hue stuff but I don't think my parents do. I think I can set up a Hue emulator of some sort though that might work and keep the costs down. Of course the other issue will be powering them remotely lol. I actually was wondering if @tigerwillow1 would elaborate on his IR 12v modification in the OP? After bridging that point, then what? Is there somewhere else to read up on this mod?
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I have been reading through this whole interesting thread and was also thinking about posting a link to the Camect hub/nvr as I heard it was the best out there for AI detection and especially with animals even detecting the types of animals. I was surprised that @tigerwillow1 didn’t comment on it as all this back and forth with so many Dahua cams on what ones work and what ones don’t seems like you would just pick your fav camera and it will just work great? @jack7 would know better as he owns one. I’d love to get more feedback on this camect hub and how you use it and what its pros and cons are.If you want to simplify things and get great object detection, identification, and false detection elimination, try a Camect hub which is good for up to 25MB of total camera resolution input.
I've used one for 2 years.
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I freely admit I'm doing a bunch of whining because the newer cameras have lost a capability that was in the older models. One of my idealistic principles is that a new-and-improved product shouldn't be worse than the one it replaces, which is really highlighted in the newer cars that are such a pain in the ass to operate. I'm happy to see these alternatives being posted. There's so much stuff out there that's hard to keep track of.
I've used a Camect for 2 or 3 years now and it works very well. At the House here in the "sticks", the local road sees relatively light traffic, but includes cars, trucks, Amazon, FedEx, UPS, etc. Its usually ID's them well. Depends somewhat on speed and camera angle. I'm using a total of 6 cams, 4 Dahua's, 2 Hikvision's currently, might add a couple more in the next year. As far as the local Critters I've got are Deer, Dogs, Cats, Raccoons, and it will detect more. I put a link below for the list at Camect.
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Pictures are worth a thousand words they say, so here's two or three alerts recently...I've used a Camect for 2 or 3 years now and it works very well. At the House here in the "sticks", the local road sees relatively light traffic, but includes cars, trucks, Amazon, FedEx, UPS, etc. Its usually ID's them well. Depends somewhat on speed and camera angle. I'm using a total of 6 cams, 4 Dahua's, 2 Hikvision's currently, might add a couple more in the next year. As far as the local Critters I've got are Deer, Dogs, Cats, Raccoons, and it will detect more. I put a link below for the list at Camect.
The Camect is LOCAL and not dependent on a Mac or PC running 24/7. You can use either Safari or Chrome to view the Camect's webpage. I also connect it to a couple of Google Nest speakers to announce alerts I've selected, which tells me what camera saw what... and on the web page interface you can review the various video clips over a specified period (24 hours for me..). Works fairly well at night too, dependent on the camera and any additional lighting. Unlike some cam reviews which have streetlights, etc., it is DARK here unless I have a small light on or in Moonlight. The ColorVu's in full moonlight look like broad daylight.
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Very cool, thank you. (Side note: I'm looking forward to watching Christmas Vacation a couple times next week/next month lol)Optex LX-402/LX802N Outdoor Passive Infrared Motion Sensor
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I guess the thing that kind of initially turned me off of it browsing the website is because it's an NVR? I don't have any experience with NVR's but the UI reminds me of a Ring or Nest, I assumed it relied on corporate servers somewhere. It's comforting to hear it's all local though! Is it possible to use it with a PC and BI? I'd love it if it work just for AI detection with passthrough to BI.I've used a Camect for 2 or 3 years now and it works very well. At the House here in the "sticks", the local road sees relatively light traffic, but includes cars, trucks, Amazon, FedEx, UPS, etc. Its usually ID's them well. Depends somewhat on speed and camera angle. I'm using a total of 6 cams, 4 Dahua's, 2 Hikvision's currently, might add a couple more in the next year. As far as the local Critters I've got are Deer, Dogs, Cats, Raccoons, and it will detect more. I put a link below for the list at Camect.
The Camect is LOCAL and not dependent on a Mac or PC running 24/7. You can use either Safari or Chrome to view the Camect's webpage. I also connect it to a couple of Google Nest speakers to announce alerts I've selected, which tells me what camera saw what... and on the web page interface you can review the various video clips over a specified period (24 hours for me..). Works fairly well at night too, dependent on the camera and any additional lighting. Unlike some cam reviews which have streetlights, etc., it is DARK here unless I have a small light on or in Moonlight. The ColorVu's in full moonlight look like broad daylight.
Caught on Security Cameras: Camect Can Detect Over 30 Types Objects
People, Animals, Vehicles, Deliveries caught on security cameras. Camect AI Smart Camera Hub is an advanced network video recorder with AI (Artificial Intelligence) to detect over 30 types of objects, continuous recording, private local video storage, and secure remote access to the networked...
