Comca$$ and other ISPs asked FCC to ditch listing-every-fee rule. FCC says "no."

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My complaint is that anytime I sign up for service, they act like I'm the very first customer to ever make such a request, and they are still trying to figure out how the process works. Internet is a fringe service cable provides, apparently. If I ask what the upload speed is, that is a different language I'm speaking. They'll research what 'upload' and 'bandwidth' means and get back to me.

The only thing worse than Comcast is CenturyLink. Hell does go deeper, apparently.
 
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My complaint is that anytime I sign up for service, they act like I'm the very first customer to ever make such a request, and they are still trying to figure out how the process works. Internet is a fringe service cable provides, apparently. If I ask what the upload speed is, that is a different language I'm speaking. They'll research what 'upload' and 'bandwidth' means and get back to me.

The only thing worse than Comcast is CenturyLink. Hell does go deeper, apparently.
They're just now realizing how 5G home internet is going to destroy them and kill their monopolies.... It's a beautiful thing to watch.
 

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Yes, it will be nice to see them go away. Our local ISP will now start to charge for email that was included in the monthly service charge. i.e. free They say "Due to the increasing complexity of maintaining the email service...."

Now they want $5 per month for a service that they could not even keep running for free! Proton mail seems like a good free alternative!!!

Looking forward to when 5G will be available at a reasonable price point. Our current pricing is $85 per month for 250 Mpbs download - 250 GB/month - upload 10 Mpbs.
 

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They're just now realizing how 5G home internet is going to destroy them and kill their monopolies.... It's a beautiful thing to watch.
I have T-Mobile 5G wireless home Internet and it costs less than half of what I was paying Spectrum for Internet only service. The 5G works okay most of the time but the speed does vary, which is okay for my needs but I wouldn't recommend it for work at home people or those who need high speed Internet where fiber would be a better choice. New and improved gateway modems are being developed with external antenna capability to increase signal strength and performance, but overall 5G wireless home Internet is still in it's infancy stage of growth.
 

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Yes, it will be nice to see them go away. Our local ISP will now start to charge for email that was included in the monthly service charge. i.e. free They say "Due to the increasing complexity of maintaining the email service...."

Now they want $5 per month for a service that they could not even keep running for free! Proton mail seems like a good free alternative!!!

Looking forward to when 5G will be available at a reasonable price point. Our current pricing is $85 per month for 250 Mpbs download - 250 GB/month - upload 10 Mpbs.
I pay $25 per month for T-Mobile Wi-Fi Internet which is price locked with no data caps. It is comparable to Spectrum cable Internet which was $60 per month.
 

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The only thing worse than Comcast is CenturyLink. Hell does go deeper, apparently.
Around here we called 'em "CenturyUNLink".....and apparently since the first of this year thy're now called "Brightspeed".

"You can salt and pepper a dog turd, roll it in flour and fry it in a pan......but it'll never be chicken....it's still a dog turd...a fried dog turd."
-TonyR 2023
 

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Around here we called 'em "CenturyUNLink".....and apparently since the first of this year thy're now called "Brightspeed".

"You can salt and pepper a dog turd, roll it in flour and fry it in a pan......but it'll never be chicken....it's still a dog turd...a fried dog turd."
-TonyR 2023
Seeing a pattern:
Comcast... aka: "xfinity"... still comcast
Charter... aka: "spectrum"... still charter

If I am not mistaken, it is a "standard" business tactic to change your name after pissing of a majority of your customer based via piss poor business ethics and crap quality hardware & delivery. The saddest part is, it probably helps them increase their customer count because many do not realize it is the same crooks behind the new name
 

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I have T-Mobile 5G wireless home Internet and it costs less than half of what I was paying Spectrum for Internet only service. The 5G works okay most of the time but the speed does vary, which is okay for my needs but I wouldn't recommend it for work at home people or those who need high speed Internet where fiber would be a better choice. New and improved gateway modems are being developed with external antenna capability to increase signal strength and performance, but overall 5G wireless home Internet is still in it's infancy stage of growth.
The 5G will get there in no time.... T-Mobile just started to implement four carrier aggregation on cell phones.. which is a theoretical speed of 3.3Gbps per second last week in Jersey City I was able to achieve over 1Gbps...
As they expand their bandwidth it's going to be insane.
 

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The 5G will get there in no time.... T-Mobile just started to implement four carrier aggregation on cell phones.. which is a theoretical speed of 3.3Gbps per second last week in Jersey City I was able to achieve over 1Gbps...
As they expand their bandwidth it's going to be insane.
I hope so...my home is between two T-Mobile towers and neither are close so I only get three bars of signal and sometimes it drops to two bars. Some Youtubers have hacked the current gateway modems to add external antennas but I've heard the new T-Mobile gateways will include external antenna ports and offer external antennas so there's no need to hack them. Every time I call T-Mobile support regarding this they claim to know nothing about the new gateway modems being released, which is supposedly happening in September, but I'm going to keep pushing to get one ASAP. Other than that, I've been happy with the service for what it costs and it works well most of the time.
 

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They're just now realizing how 5G home internet is going to destroy them and kill their monopolies.... It's a beautiful thing to watch.
Except for the fact Verizon stopped large Fios expansion a decade ago with the hope 5G would help. It didn't and they started up heavy expansion a few years ago again. 5G has its place but if your cellular network isn't great, it's not going to work out (as Verizon is playing catch up now).
 

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Except for the fact Verizon stopped large Fios expansion a decade ago with the hope 5G would help. It didn't and they started up heavy expansion a few years ago again. 5G has its place but if your cellular network isn't great, it's not going to work out (as Verizon is playing catch up now).
The 5g spectrum and tech is miles ahead of what it was five years ago. Verizon didnt stop fios expansion because of 5g, they stopped because of the heavy cash outlays to run the fiber. Tmoblie is only providing service in areas where this is excess bandwidth. As they ramp up it will get even better. The cable companies are seeing lots of cancelations. I was able to get my provider to match the tmobile rate (even though tmobile does not provide service to my address). These big monopolies are going to suffer big time.
 

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Comcast has directional drillers out in our neighborhood to lay fiber conduit. They raised my sidewalk 1", so now there's a lip for the kids to trip on. They are going to bust out that section of sidewalk and pour a new exposed ag one. Insanely expensive to install this conduit.

I buy the modem and router separately. Then when my introductory rate runs out, I switch to the other internet provider. I'll put the cable modem back in the closet, connect the DSL modem, and my network stays the same since I don't change the router. My bill is perpetually ~$30/mo instead of hiking up to ~$80 at the end of the promotional period.
 

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Comcast has directional drillers out in our neighborhood to lay fiber conduit. They raised my sidewalk 1", so now there's a lip for the kids to trip on. They are going to bust out that section of sidewalk and pour a new exposed ag one. Insanely expensive to install this conduit.

I buy the modem and router separately. Then when my introductory rate runs out, I switch to the other internet provider. I'll put the cable modem back in the closet, connect the DSL modem, and my network stays the same since I don't change the router. My bill is perpetually ~$30/mo instead of hiking up to ~$80 at the end of the promotional period.
Most companies are using contractors to install the fiber infrastructure and they don't care what collateral damage they do in the process. They cut the underground power cable feeding our street light but then denied it, but that's small in comparison to the major utility service line damage they cause. In regards to DSL, you'd better make sure it's still available in your area before you dust off the DSL modem because DSL service either has already been or is being discontinued since it's now obsolete.
 

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Most companies are using contractors to install the fiber infrastructure and they don't care what collateral damage they do in the process. They cut the underground power cable feeding our street light but then denied it, but that's small in comparison to the major utility service line damage they cause. In regards to DSL, you'd better make sure it's still available in your area before you dust off the DSL modem because DSL service either has already been or is being discontinued since it's now obsolete.
I haven't had DSL in a few years now. My options will be cable vs fiber (and possibly a 2nd fiber), so I'll be shuffling between those options (Astound, Comcast, Ziply).

I'm curious if fiber modems are interchangeable between providers? I've actually never seen one before. Out in the country, we've always been the last to get the newest stuff.
 
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