Paiberfunk
n3wb
Hrm ? Did I do something wrong ? It’s just an Amazon link
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It's a legit link to this Amcrest camera.
@Paiberfunk - Amcrest is made by Dahua (same company that makes Andy's cameras), but Amcrest is a consumer line and as such most of their cameras use cheaper materials and sensors to keep the costs down, whereas Andy's cameras are true OEM, so you will usually not see an Amcrest equivalent on Andy's product line.
For example, this camera uses much smaller sensors than the 180 camera Any sells. Smaller sensor means it won't work as well at night.
@Paiberfunk - Amcrest is made by Dahua (same company that makes Andy's cameras), but Amcrest is a consumer line and as such most of their cameras use cheaper materials and sensors to keep the costs down, whereas Andy's cameras are true OEM, so you will usually not see an Amcrest equivalent on Andy's product line.
For example, this camera uses much smaller sensors than the 180 camera Any sells. Smaller sensor means it won't work as well at night.
Paiberfunk
n3wb
Yea I know from having been reading the forums for a while but just lurking that Andy sells better stuff, I just bought my first camera from him off Amazon in fact after getting sick of the issues with the reolinks I’ve been having !
@Heavyopp sorry for the suspicious looking link it’s just the shortened URL that Amazon gives you when you copy the link from their app. Generally, as long as I’m using an up-to-date browser, ad blocker and other security measures I don’t worry too much about links as browsers are pretty heavily sandboxed these days.. but I guess zero days are still a thing. If you’re really paranoid you can always look up the DNS and see that it’s an Amazon owned domain for redirects /shortening.
What I was looking for here specifically was whether or not this camera is something that has a similar style that’s offered by Andy or anybody else selling cameras because I don’t see anybody else but Amcrest selling it and I’m wondering if it’s just really new or if it’s not actually a Dahua camera at all. From what I have heard, they occasionally sell other brands.
Andy sells this version, but does not have IR:
empiretech01.com
If you are interested in other 180s, look at this thread: Will Dahua/Hikvision etc. make a 180 degree camera with IR?
EmpireTech IPC-Color4K-T180 4K Full-Color 1/1.8" CMOS Dual-Lens Splici
Dual 1/1.8" CMOS Image Sensor | Outputs 180° wide angle splicing image | Built-in warm light | The max. illumination distance is 40 m | Built-in Mic and speaker supports two-way talk | IP67 protection | EPTZ function | SMD3.0
empiretech01.com
If you are interested in other 180s, look at this thread: Will Dahua/Hikvision etc. make a 180 degree camera with IR?
Paiberfunk
n3wb
yes, this is the one I ordered from Andy. The Amcrest version does not have IR either… it would appear to be similar to the T180s but with a lower frame rate of 15 fps (and probably worse sensor , I’m guessing )Andy sells this version, but does not have IR:
EmpireTech IPC-Color4K-T180 4K Full-Color 1/1.8" CMOS Dual-Lens Splici
Dual 1/1.8" CMOS Image Sensor | Outputs 180° wide angle splicing image | Built-in warm light | The max. illumination distance is 40 m | Built-in Mic and speaker supports two-way talk | IP67 protection | EPTZ function | SMD3.0
If you are interested in other 180s, look at this thread: Will Dahua/Hikvision etc. make a 180 degree camera with IR?
Paiberfunk
n3wb
Based on the model number sequence, terminology of features, and it's web interface on the screenshots in the manual for the camera, it is Dahua:
Paiberfunk
n3wb
Wonder why nobody else is selling it / it’s nowhere on the dahua site then .. maybe a special low end model just for them ?
Paiberfunk
n3wb
Ah , but Andy seems to unique exception to this , getting OEM quality without getting gouged ?
If you pay for OEM you get OEM. The consumer brands need to provide generally lessor quality to keep price down and be able to provide a 1-800 number for customer service, which most true OEM doesn't provide.
Paiberfunk
n3wb
Would people here agree though that Andy’s firmware and hardware often appears actually be better than OEM?
Yes. You will find that the firmware we get from him is actually better and more recent than what is on the Dahua website because many members here provide feedback to Andy and then Dahua makes modifications to the firmware and sends back to him and then he sends out to his customers. These have been great improvements that Dahua doesn't even update their firmware and add to their website. So many of us are running a newer firmware than those that purchase Dahua cameras through professional installers. Smart IR on the 5442 series is one such improvement. Autotracking on the 49225 and 49425 PTZ is another. We got the next version of AI SMD 3.0 prior to anyone else as well.
Look at the threads here where members are actually testing firmware and improving it for Dahua - find a Dahua dealer with that type of relationship that Andy has with Dahua - I don't think you will find it. Look at the Dahua 4k camera on the 1/1.2" sensor as an example - Dahua provides cameras to Andy to sell before Dahua even made it available and look at all the improvements being made to the firmware from input from customers right here on this site. And the kicker is, we are not Dahua's target market - it is the professional installers...
duplo
Getting comfortable
That should be the Tioc cam 3849s
it has IR, but 1/2.7" sensor.
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Paiberfunk
n3wb
My guess (as a product manager) is that this type of relationship benefits everyone. Andy gets a niche market carve out with loyal customers, and Dahua gets avid beta testers by selling a small portion of products below market rates, and we get shiny toys. Everyone wins.
madyeti
n3wb
I see there's limits on per order purchase quantity. Can we place more than one order? Thanks
Alaska Country
Getting comfortable
Your best bet is to write Andy and ask.
EMPIRETECANDY
IPCT Vendor
This kind of camera will be later of this year. it's 1/2.7cmos.
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