Camera suggestions for dark areas at night

Is there such a thing as turtle bacon? If so, it's likely VERY expensive.
</end crude attempt a humor, this inserted to compensate for no body language or facial expressions available to properly comvey this overly verbose post>

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Hell, it might even be illegal in some states
 
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And this is why I think the "younger generation" (not sure how far back) is going to have trouble in the future with in-person, one-on-one relationships. When you spend way too much time texting or emailing and less time talking face-to-face or at least talking on a phone you don't learn how to observe, interpret and use body language, facial expressions, etc. and in most cases (when no audible phone) voice inflections to actually know with any accuracy if a person is mad, being sarcastic, being rude or trying to be funny.

IMO this is also the reason why a phone conversation can detract tremendously from a person's driving ability because of the intense focus on the voice to compensate for no body language or facial expressions available.......only voice.

Agree.
See most people who only know me online would probably think I'm an asshole.
It's true I AM and asshole, but without being able to talk face to face you may think its just an online thing :)
 
Agree.
See most people who only know me online would probably think I'm an asshole.
It's true I AM and asshole, but without being able to talk face to face you may think its just an online thing :)
And the anonymityof being online brings out the keyboard warrior syndrome in some and they are empowered to be the true dick that they are but would not dare do so in person.

I can see that being easy to fall into.
 
Years down the road when this thread is found in a search, someone is going to think to themselves: what in the world happened in this post, it went from cameras to turtle bacon in hurry. Nothing like derailing the subject

As a good railroad friend said to me, if you're going to derail and spill cars on the ground, you better make it spectacular. Don't do a half-assed job, be proud of your accomplishment, so you have a good story to tell your grandkids :D
 
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Years down the road when this thread is found in a search, someone is going to think to themselves: what in the world happened in this post, it went from cameras to turtle bacon in hurry. Nothing like derailing the subject

As a good railroad friend said to me, if you're going to derail and spill cars on the ground, you better make it spectacular. Don't do a half-assed job, be proud of your accomplishment, so you have a good story to tell your grandkids :D
bigredfish started it, then flynreelow gave it a spin and tried to do my part but it was somewhat doomed from the start...maybe not enough boobs, sex, guns, ammo, hunting, cars or arjun stuff. :idk:
 
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Truly sorry :rofl:
 
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Ok, I'm lost on the Arjun reference, maybe someone can provide a link to the Arjun inside joke?

 
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There are 3 Gel Packs in the Dahua N45EFN2, You can access one of them that is close to the lens by just removing the bottom door and there is 1 pack behind the Micro SD slot/reset button PCB. Normally it is tapped in and the tape they use is very strong lol. So if that is all you care to replace as the other 2 are deep in the camera. it might be best to remove the 2 screws that hold the MicroSD on the heatsink. Because of the way it is screwed down can be a PITA to install it back. But if you are going to go and take the front plate off to gain access then might as well do all 3 lol. I have a second one that is doing Face Recognition that I installed almost 2 years ago now so it is do for new Gel Packs this year. So I would be willing to Make a Video of the swap. The 2 packs that are behind the Heat Sink inside is mounted between the Main PCB and Power Board PCB.. I don't know the area your camera came from but your packs might be in good enough shape if the camera came from a normally dry area. My area if you don't change them out the inside lens will fog up and even had one camera with water in the lens cover bottom that lucky for me was below the PCB area in the body.. So now I do it like Spring Cleaning, Something I don't want to do but if I don't something will go wrong so have to lol.. I know it has only been a few days but did you get your new to you camera yet?
 
Years down the road when this thread is found in a search, someone is going to think to themselves: what in the world happened in this post, it went from cameras to turtle bacon in hurry. Nothing like derailing the subject

As a good railroad friend said to me, if you're going to derail and spill cars on the ground, you better make it spectacular. Don't do a half-assed job, be proud of your accomplishment, so you have a good story to tell your grandkids :D
I should change my screenname to the Derailinator
 
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Ok, tried the Dahua N45EFN2 at this location and there is not enough light to run this camera here. The image was noisy no matter how much I tried to make adjustments and since this is a color only camera, I can't run the white LEDs here because they point into oncoming traffic.

The intersection is 155 feet away and the optimum FOV is 36 - 40 degrees horizontal. So, I'm thinking on either the B52IR or the B54IR for the 4 IR lights for that distance and FOV. Any thoughts, opinions or other input?
 
I have asked before and I don't think you have answered - what is your goal for the camera at this location - OVERVIEW or IDENTIFY and if IDENTIFY at what distance?

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I have asked before and I don't think you have answered - what is your goal for the camera at this location - OVERVIEW or IDENTIFY and if IDENTIFY at what distance?

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As it is right now, I can observe and at least recognize the type of vehicle (car, truck, SUV) and make out people walking by and get a pretty good idea on their gender, height and build. The area does not have enough light to show enough detail to make positive identification of something at night nor color, especially since the distance to the middle of the intersection is roughly 155 feet

I was thinking that replacing the current turret camera with a bullet would add quite a bit more IR light so that the settings cam be more customized.
 
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For observe, the 54IR fixed lens turret or ZE for a bit of zoom would do the job unless you want the bullet for the 2 more IRs.

I wouldn't go with the 52IR-Z12E as it is great for plates at distance, but not too good for people at dark at distance. The 54IR-Z4E would be better but if keeping it zoomed out for overview you are wasting the capacity of the varifocal.
 
For observe, the 54IR fixed lens turret or ZE for a bit of zoom would do the job unless you want the bullet for the 2 more IRs.

I wouldn't go with the 52IR-Z12E as it is great for plates at distance, but not too good for people at dark at distance. The 54IR-Z4E would be better but if keeping it zoomed out for overview you are wasting the capacity of the varifocal.
For this location, the calculated FOV is roughly 36 degrees, so a varifocal lens would be needed. A fixed lens would be short for the location
 
Keep in mind that FOV is only one characteristic - if that throws the focal point down the road too far away from the camera, then it isn't really an overview camera at that point and you may miss a lot on your property (if that is a concern for that camera)

The Z4E at widest angle is about what the ZE is at full zoom.

If this ends up being the field of view, is that OK for you?

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Attached is about what I am hoping to accomplish. This is cropped about 10 to 15 percent of the original (30-to-35-degree FOV). The exposure has been adjusted to reflect what I hope to achieve.

The turret camera that is there now is a varifocal lens 2.7 - 12mm? It is zoomed in roughly 40 - 50% currently. Its main downfall is it's an 8MP 1/2.8" sensor. During the day, the image is ok, but at night it has ghosting and is a bit noisy
 

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Ok, so I did a little experimenting with adding IR light from an existing SPTZ camera by facing it in that direction. Seems to make a noticeable difference in exposure. 1st shot is the original, second shot is with the SPTZ camera IR light added. Now the SPTZ camera is 230 feet away from the intersection and the turret camera location is 163 feet away. You can see vertical shadows in the left side intersection because the IR from the SPTZ camera is luminating through the banana plants just behind our fence
 

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