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I've been debating lately as to whether or not a small discrete PTZ camera would be a good secondary camera. Soffits should be able to accommodate this camera's base along with a PFA137 mount. However, it would look odd seeing two cameras in the same spot. I typically prefer fixed lens or vari-focal and an overview camera as secondary.

I came across the two camera models aforementioned in this thread's title. One has IR, the other does not, one does 265 compression other does not. A bit a of compromise there. There's adequate lighting, therefore don't think IR will be much needed anyway. One is 4MP other 2MP, don't really want the higher resolution, but that can be tweaked in settings.

However, does anyone have any experience with these two models? SD22404T-GN and SD22204T-GN

Correction, both models do not have IR night vision
 
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Arjun said:
I've been debating lately as to whether or not a small discrete PTZ camera would be a good secondary camera. Soffits should be able to accommodate this camera's base along with a PFA137 mount. However, it would look odd seeing two cameras in the same spot. I typically prefer fixed lens or vari-focal and an overview camera as secondary.

I came across the two camera models aforementioned in this thread's title. One has IR, the other does not, one does 265 compression other does not. A bit a of compromise there. There's adequate lighting, therefore don't think IR will be much needed anyway. One is 4MP other 2MP, don't really want the higher resolution, but that can be tweaked in settings.

However, does anyone have any experience with these two models? SD22404T-GN and SD22204T-GN
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Why not use the starlight minidome ptz?
 
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Thanks @fenderman which model in particular are you referring to? I see a few out there, a couple I see being excessive. I was thinking of something not too large and not too small. Want it to be discrete. :)

I wanted something with a little more optical zoom. I think 4x (around 12mm) should be fine for this application. Want to mount this high below a soffit. Another issue is the sunrise; may produce glare at the dome, but is also a bit unlikely due to the partial shade by the soffit (wouldn't know 'till a test bed is setup). Also, I just feel that the larger foam factor will be more rugged and will be able to withstand the overall elements compared to the minidome ptz.

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Why not use the starlight minidome ptz?
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Arjun said:
Thanks @fenderman which model in particular are you referring to? I see a few out there, a couple I see being excessive. I was thinking of something not too large and not too small. Want it to be discrete. :)

I wanted something with a little more optical zoom. I think 4x (around 12mm) should be fine for this application. Want to mount this high below a soffit. Another issue is the sunrise; may produce glare at the dome, but is also a bit unlikely due to the partial shade by the soffit (wouldn't know 'till a test bed is setup). Also, I just feel that the larger foam factor will be more rugged and will be able to withstand the overall elements compared to the minidome ptz.
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there is an entire thread on it. 203. They are much smaller than the ones you linked to.
 
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Arjun said:
Thanks @fenderman which model in particular are you referring to? I see a few out there, a couple I see being excessive. I was thinking of something not too large and not too small. Want it to be discrete. :)

I wanted something with a little more optical zoom. I think 4x (around 12mm) should be fine for this application. Want to mount this high below a soffit. Another issue is the sunrise; may produce glare at the dome, but is also a bit unlikely due to the partial shade by the soffit (wouldn't know 'till a test bed is setup). Also, I just feel that the larger foam factor will be more rugged and will be able to withstand the overall elements compared to the minidome ptz.
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SD1A203T-GN, seems you already have one, ahah. 4MP is a new one this year, SD22404T-GN, we sell this model too, size bigger than the SD1A203T-GN and no nightvision, so can't use in the totally dark place.
 
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Unfortunately on the sd1a203t, I can't paint the plate, it has plastic covering and the IR led's are situated within the cover. I like that its a smaller size though, but would need to work it out a little for it to be compatible with a PFA137 or similar foam factor mount. Are there any other alternatives, or would doing a modification on the mount be my best option?

The location of the PTZ wouldn't be too far from a nearby street light. However, I can't speculate what the outcome would be for night time footage unless someone has already purchased SD22404T-GN and is able to provide some sample footage :)

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there is an entire thread on it. 203. They are much smaller than the ones you linked to.
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Arjun said:
Unfortunately on the sd1a203t, I can't paint the plate, it has plastic covering and the IR led's are situated within the cover. I like that its a smaller size though, but would need to work it out a little for it to be compatible with a PFA137 or similar foam factor mount. Are there any other alternatives, or would doing a modification on the mount be my best option?

The location of the PTZ wouldn't be too far from a nearby street light. However, I can't speculate what the outcome would be for night time footage unless someone has already purchased SD22404T-GN and is able to provide some sample footage :)
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Both the cameras you listed have no ir..so might as well pant or plastidip the minidome
 
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Thanks, this one looks decent and doesn't stand out much, just wish it could work with a PFA mount without further mod :)



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Both the cameras you listed have no ir..so might as well pant or plastidip the minidome
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Thanks, this one looks decent and doesn't stand out much, just wish it could work with a PFA mount without further mod :)
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Are you certain theeis no junction box mount?
Also if it's soffit why bother... tuck the excess cable inside
 
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All I see are wall mount brackets SD1A203T-GN

I remember coming across someone using a PFB203, but it required a little modification to make it work. Also, problem is that it protrudes and stick out a lot.

The soffit I'm thinking of installing this is on is not hollow from within. Its solid wood, likely to be 50+ years old, :lol: Not the typical soffit, and is only 4-5 inches in width.

The compatibility of the larger model with the PFA137 is what encouraged me to look further into the SD22404T-GN and SD22204T-GN

PTZ's generally grab attention the mini-PTZ model looks just about right and is very discreet, but may be the "slightly extra zoom" on the SD22404T-GN may be beneficial. Won't be sure unless I can do side-by-side comparisons




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Are you certain theeis no junction box mount?
Also if it's soffit why bother... tuck the excess cable inside
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I recently purchased the SD1A203T-GN and I got the PFB305W & PFA107 to mount it. I haven't installed it yet but can post a pick of it assembled if you like?
 
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I have the previous version of this camera, the SD22204T-GN, and if i need to be honest, i would not recommend this camera, as my guess would be that they perform quite the same as the previous model, but then in 4MP. Dahua has messed up the firmware on the previous model (random zoom in/out every 3-4 minutes or so, and i'm still waiting for them to fix the firmware. (my hope will faint on that)

It has no IR, so at night you have quite a issue, if it will be used with no external IR illumination or just some street/garden lights. Ok, it has PTZ, but thats all.
If i have to do it again, i would look for a Starlight dome, fixed or with/without PTZ / IR.
 
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Thanks for being spot-on @SkyLake I actually thought the low-lux rating on this model would have suffice, but if that was the case, every member on this forum would be all over both the 2MP and newer 4MP models

From what I have noticed, members on the forum here are very practical and only discuss the best models available. The SD1A203T-GN is a much nicer and compact option as others mentioned here, but perhaps a dome in general is never recommended for outdoors anyway; I see some install them outdoors regardless perhaps by contractors or maybe cost-savings. Also, as per this video, looks really bulky and will stand out (not that discreet from what I originally thought).


I might as well mount a fixed lens or varifocal with an adequate Field-of-View. Placing multiple cameras in the vicinity of the same exact spot is probably not ideal in practical conditions either. Proper placement and efficiency counts in every install.

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I have the previous version of this camera, the SD22204T-GN, and if i need to be honest, i would not recommend this camera, as my guess would be that they perform quite the same as the previous model, but then in 4MP. Dahua has messed up the firmware on the previous model (random zoom in/out every 3-4 minutes or so, and i'm still waiting for them to fix the firmware. (my hope will faint on that)

It has no IR, so at night you have quite a issue, if it will be used with no external IR illumination or just some street/garden lights. Ok, it has PTZ, but thats all.
If i have to do it again, i would look for a Starlight dome, fixed or with/without PTZ / IR.
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SkyLake said:
I have the previous version of this camera, the SD22204T-GN, and if i need to be honest, i would not recommend this camera, as my guess would be that they perform quite the same as the previous model, but then in 4MP. Dahua has messed up the firmware on the previous model (random zoom in/out every 3-4 minutes or so, and i'm still waiting for them to fix the firmware. (my hope will faint on that)

It has no IR, so at night you have quite a issue, if it will be used with no external IR illumination or just some street/garden lights. Ok, it has PTZ, but thats all.
If i have to do it again, i would look for a Starlight dome, fixed or with/without PTZ / IR.
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That's not a previous version, And one being discussed here is a Starlight, and performs just like the other Starlights.
 
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I purchased three SD22404T-GN from @EMPIRETECANDY a few months back. I bought it more for the novelty aspect. I did not expect too much on the night performance (I have starlights for that). I use them for overview more than anything else. I have a miniwedge for controlling one of the 404's at the front of the house(to try to catch package thieves). One covers the side gate/court yard and the other covers the in-law/back door on main house and garage. Give me some time to let me figure out how to pull some night video footage. I'll try to find one with someone walking by.
 
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Here's a night video. I'm sure some adjustments can be made to make the picture of the subject better. I just havent't spent too much time making adjustments. Lighting comes from the neightbor's house in the first shot, there is a lightpole across the street and at my front door. Otherwise it's pretty dark out there.

 
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Um, why is the subject blurring out as he walks by? Did you not change the settings in the camera's interface? :)

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Here's a night video. I'm sure some adjustments can be made to make the picture of the subject better. I just havent't spent too much time making adjustments. Lighting comes from the neightbor's house in the first shot, there is a lightpole across the street and at my front door. Otherwise it's pretty dark out there.

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