Worlds First Review - Dahua DH-IPC-PFW5849-A180-E2 - Dual Lens 180 Degree Full Color 4K (8MP Stitched) Camera

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Enabling decoder compatibility model in BI seems to have solved the no signal issue for me, as well. But now I've ran into a new issue that I was not expecting. Within Blue Iris, the Dahua (EmpireTech) 180 turret is now lagging 1 minute behind my other cameras, and is reporting 13.85 fps. I have the camera set to 25 fps and 12288 kbps (to give it a little headroom). Logging in through the web configurator shows the camera functioning at full frame rate.

BI seems to be really struggling with it right now. It's clearly a Blue Iris issue, not a camera issue. What would be the best way to resolve this issue going forward?
Send an email to BI explaining the issue and let Ken remote in so he can see what is going on.
 

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It appears that one of the recent Blue Iris updates may have fixed the issue I was experiencing with the machine becoming unstable with the Dahua 180 camera after 48 hours.

I applied the recent updates, and haven't had the issue since. Machine has been running for several days and is still in-sync with the other cameras, and reporting 25 fps.
 

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Didn't know that hard working dude would use one of the progress pics......! Wasn't out of there yet. Better.

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I have some video from the EI NVR of them actually working, in the real world. I'll put together a little "commercial" for the T-180.
 

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Hi guys, few weeks ago I bought this camera and I have mixed feelings: I love the night image but hate it for distorting the image - image H/V ratio is way off. Any recommendation for "half" if this camera? 4Mpx, with similar night image quality but without distorting the image, I'm fine with lower viewing angle, it can be Hik or Dahua. Thanks
 

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Hi guys, few weeks ago I bought this camera and I have mixed feelings: I love the night image but hate it for distorting the image - image H/V ratio is way off. Any recommendation for "half" if this camera? 4Mpx, with similar night image quality but without distorting the image, I'm fine with lower viewing angle, it can be Hik or Dahua. Thanks
That is just the nature of optics and panoramic type views.

Have you tried changing the resolution of the camera as that has an impact as well.
 

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Hi guys, few weeks ago I bought this camera and I have mixed feelings: I love the night image but hate it for distorting the image - image H/V ratio is way off. Any recommendation for "half" if this camera? 4Mpx, with similar night image quality but without distorting the image, I'm fine with lower viewing angle, it can be Hik or Dahua. Thanks
Setting the resolution for 4096x1216 works really well for me. Also, I leave WDR "off." Having it turned "on" shows the center where the view of the two lenses meet.
 

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Hi guys, few weeks ago I bought this camera and I have mixed feelings: I love the night image but hate it for distorting the image - image H/V ratio is way off. Any recommendation for "half" if this camera? 4Mpx, with similar night image quality but without distorting the image, I'm fine with lower viewing angle, it can be Hik or Dahua. Thanks
The 1/2 camera is Dahua 4kt or 4kx. Speak to Andy about one if that's your intention.
 

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@CCTVCam can you recommend any similar and cheaper 4Mpx version of 4K-T/X ? When I said half PFW5849-A180-E2 I was thinking also to half the price :))
 
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No. Here you're paying for a bigger sensor. If you want to see at night pretty much you're going to be using IR and B&W unless it's the 4k series (with some light - even the 4k series can't see in total darkness or very very low light).

The nearest alternative is the 5442 series but they don't see as well at night, albeit they're the best of the others. I don't have both so can't comment directly but some on here have both cameras. Please note here there are a lot of models in the 5442 series, some use ir, some have improved sensors that are aimed at seeing colour at night. My understanding from others on here is non see as well as the 4k series without additional light.
 

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I am thinking of replacing a with an old IPC-HDW5231R-Z in the alley behind my garage. I need to cover a good 40 feet total in the field of view which is covered by a decent floodlight.

I'm trying to decide between a IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3 or maybe this thing. The camera in this thread would allow me to watch people prying my garage door open close up too which might come in handy.

Having read through this thread, I'd like to ask a few questions:

- Sounds like AI is a problem for people. I assume this means the AI built into the camera? What if I'm going Code Project AI in Blue Iris?
- I seem to get pretty good AI accuracy with my current camera even though the images are sometimes not great at night. Is the image really so distorted on this camera (not counting the seam in the center)? I only need vehicle and person recognition. Animals are nice to have.

- Any idea why Blue Iris is having problems with this camera? Is it still having problems? Seems like the camera should just be presenting a video stream if I use h.264 I don't want to spend a lot of time fighting with software/cameras. What I have now is nice I just want a better image quality.

- Based on specs this should be in the same league for Color night time video as IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3. Anyone tried these side by side?

- I'm surprised there hasn't been a version 2 of this camera all this time. I wonder if its not proving to be popular?

- Am I correct in thinking this is a really nice overview camera but maybe not so great as the latest attempt to "Cover everything with awesome DORI values"?

Thanks for any thoughts. I feel like I should just buy two IPC-T54IR-ZE-S and be done with it but wouldn't mind hearing other ideas.
 

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I am thinking of replacing a with an old IPC-HDW5231R-Z in the alley behind my garage. I need to cover a good 40 feet total in the field of view which is covered by a decent floodlight.

I'm trying to decide between a IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3 or maybe this thing. The camera in this thread would allow me to watch people prying my garage door open close up too which might come in handy.

Having read through this thread, I'd like to ask a few questions:

- Sounds like AI is a problem for people. I assume this means the AI built into the camera? What if I'm going Code Project AI in Blue Iris?
- I seem to get pretty good AI accuracy with my current camera even though the images are sometimes not great at night. Is the image really so distorted on this camera (not counting the seam in the center)? I only need vehicle and person recognition. Animals are nice to have.

- Any idea why Blue Iris is having problems with this camera? Is it still having problems? Seems like the camera should just be presenting a video stream if I use h.264 I don't want to spend a lot of time fighting with software/cameras. What I have now is nice I just want a better image quality.

- Based on specs this should be in the same league for Color night time video as IPC-T54IR-ZE-S3. Anyone tried these side by side?

- I'm surprised there hasn't been a version 2 of this camera all this time. I wonder if its not proving to be popular?

- Am I correct in thinking this is a really nice overview camera but maybe not so great as the latest attempt to "Cover everything with awesome DORI values"?

Thanks for any thoughts. I feel like I should just buy two IPC-T54IR-ZE-S and be done with it but wouldn't mind hearing other ideas.
It is a great overview camera. Except in rare situations, I would not use it to IDENTIFY. At 40 feet out, it will do very little to IDENTIFY.

If you break the image into 3 parts vertically, the center third does ok with AI detection, but many see the other 2/3 is where it will have trouble with AI triggers. I think it is the classic case of trying to do too much with one camera.

The 54IR (5442) will blow this camera out of the water in terms of picture quality. Keep in mind this camera doesn't see infrared.

Most of the issues with BI seem to be poor power supply and/or using wrong codecs. I documented my tests in this thread. A factory reset before using seems to do wonders with this camera and BI for some reason.

With all that said, like any camera, each one has its place and a great camera used in the wrong install will result in poor results.

I have 3 of them. They are great overview cameras, but I have other cameras for IDENTIFY purposes.
 

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@wittaj Thanks, this is exactly what I hoping to get at. Always easier to add a camera that does something well and then add another that does something else well later on.
 

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I'm having an issue with a 180 cam -- I'll ask here because this thread just came back up

Refurb from Andy, bought in January 2024, ran on test rig for a few days back when I got it. Just putting camera into service now.
Had a tough time getting camera to start, did some diagnosing, pulled it down and plugged it into my test tombstone, started right up. Cut off rj45 up in the junction box and re-did. Cam booted right up.
Tonite I was doing some configuring. Started to get slow response from camera. Then "failed operation" notices when hitting apply. Then lost connection.

My switch does not show a green light on the port this cam is plugged into BUT the led illumination on the cam is on.
I cannot connect to the camera GUI. "failed to connect" as if the cam has no power but the lights are on.

Hard shutdown and reboot - Unplugging from switch - Brings me to the same result - Lights on but nothing on the switch to indicate cam has power

I have not enabled this cam on Blue Iris yet. Was just running and setting up in the cam GUI itself.
What's going on?
Factory reset???
 

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Over the last few months I have had to do factory reset on several of my cameras (which i purchased from Andy). Not really sure, but only a small issue in my books. Most of my issues were surrounding shutter speed selection being applied and very slow connection to the cam gui's, the factory reset cleared them up, but to note I had to reconfig them manually because the config import had cause the same issues to happen a short time later.
 
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