5.7.7 - May 24, 2023

[fenderman]

5.7.7 - May 24, 2023
In order to reduce the chance for inadvertent configuration errors, this version enforces the
use of required settings when dual-streaming is employed. Specifically, direct-to-disk
recording, a pre-trigger buffer of at least 5 seconds, and no “limit decoding.”

Whenever the pre-trigger buffer is configured yet it contains no key frame, the yellow
caution icon will be shown in the camera’s window. In this case, increase the key frame rate
to at least 0.25 via direct camera browser configuration.

Pulling the camera’s current image for the camera settings/general page, among other
functions, has been made more efficient for a more responsive UI.

Duplicate AI labels will be suppressed in the database memo field, showing only the highest
confidence, allowing more labels to be visible in this 35-character limited field.

AI static object analysis is under revision to allow more functionality, such as “missing
object” and “abandoned object” detection. In this version, you may view the current static
object status via the Trigger/AI/Static Object window.

 

[CrazyAsYou]

I've upgraded to 5.7.7.2 and now have the yellow caution icon shown on ALL my cameras windows, I'm not sure why, as the below shows most of my cams are key frame 1.00

 

[IAmATeaf]

What’s your pre-trigger set to ? Mentions at least 5 seconds in the original post above.

 

[CrazyAsYou]

What’s your pre-trigger set to ? Mentions at least 5 seconds in the original post above.

I did have them all at 3.0 seconds before the upgrade, when I saw the upgrade notes and the warning sign I changed them all to 5.0 seconds, but it hasn't made any difference - I have all my cameras setup like this

 

[biggen]

Im not sure that I care for an enforced 5 second pretrigger. My LPR cam is set for a 1 second pretrigger and a 1 second break time which means cars show up in playback quickly and clips are short. Setting it to 5 seconds will mean lots of “dead air” with nothing happening for 4 seconds until cars enter the FOV.

 

[Tinman]

Mine does the same thing and also tried the 5 sec. pretrigger but still have yellow triangle.

 

[Tinman]

So I discovered that if you do NOT have "record dual-streams if available" you will get the yellow triangle warning. Also even if you uncheck "pre-trigger record time" BI will automatically check it and go 3.0 seconds, but I do not get a yellow warning. The help file explains this in more detail.



UPDATE: Ken replied:

Thanks ... fixing that (suppressing the warning). It's still OK to record only the main stream if you want.

 

[CrazyAsYou]

5.7.7.3 has fixed the problem, I now only have one warning sign, but that is on a cheapo wifi cam I have in the garage that only runs 10fps with 0.10 key frame. - I do notice though that all my cameras have a forced 5.0 second pre-trigger, but I guess Ken has his reasons for this.

 

[jaydeel]

I'm a bit surprised that no one has posted yet about recent changes to the 'memo' label on entries in the Alert list.

Specifically... that the alert 'memo' appears to no longer show AI results, like 'vehicle:91%'

The 'memo' has changed from something like this ...


... to this


Here's the explanation...

A few 5.7.7.x versions ago Ken added ONVIF trigger information to the memo.

The JSON alertlist cmd output (below) shows the change in detail.
Note how the new ONVIF trigger label RuleEngine… is now pushing the AI labels to the right and truncating them (e.g., ve instead of vehicle:91%).
(BTW, from this screenshot, It appears that the length of the [memo] value is limited to 35 characters.)




When I asked Ken about this, he replied that the new ONVIF trigger labels are user-customizable (you can remove the labels, or change then to your liking)
The screenshots below show how to do this.

The current default...


Customized...


Here's an Alert list entry with a customized ONVIF trigger label



To go back the previous behavior, just clear the Memo/label field...

 

[jaydeel]

Version 5.7.7.12 update observation...

Presets per camera increased from 99 to 256

Prior to this version...

• 40 was the limit of camera presets that could be edited via the Blue Iris GUI ('Camera Settings' > 'PTZ/Control' tab > 'Edit presets' dialog).
• 99 was the limit of presets could be created by directly editing the Windows registry -- using a key path like
  HKLM\SOFTWARE\Perspective Software\Blue Iris\Cameras\{CamName}\PTZ\Presets\99
  where '99' is the preset number.

Now all 256 presets can be edited directly using the 'Edit presets' dialog
(via the 'Camera Settings' > 'PTZ/Control' tab)


Background...

Before every update I try to always use the NirSoft utilty RegistryChangesView to create a Registry snapshot.
Then I use the utility to compare any registry changes made during the software update to this snapshot.
(see this post for a description of this process).

Usually there is nothing new -- but not so today.
For every camera, new keys were created under the \PTZ\Presets regkey path. Example...

 

[EvanVanVan]

I'm a bit surprised that no one has posted yet about recent changes to the 'memo' label on entries in the Alert list.

To go back the previous behavior, just clear the Memo/label field...

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Funny that I google "RuleEngine" and really only find posts by you @jaydeel lol.

Just wondering, the following is what I have in my ONVIF Events. To get rid of the extraneous RuleEngine/LineDetector/Crossed; I need to manually delete the {EVENT} in everyone of these rules listed for all 16 cameras?

Ty

 

[jaydeel]

Funny that I google "RuleEngine" and really only find posts by you @jaydeel lol.

Just wondering, the following is what I have in my ONVIF Events. To get rid of the extraneous RuleEngine/LineDetector/Crossed; I need to manually delete the {EVENT} in everyone of these rules listed for all 16 cameras?

Ty

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I've since replaced the very long entries with short ones, like 'LD/C' (see below).
I do find them useful. I tweak each memo entry as I encounter them.

 

[EvanVanVan]

I've since replaced the very long entries with short ones, like 'LD/C' (see below).
I do find them useful. I tweak each memo entry as I encounter them.

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Lol and I know this has nothing to do with you, but there are just so many of them and to manually have to configure them for every camera seems insane

 

[actran]

@EvanVanVan It's very unlikely that all rules will trigger.

My approach, I disable all the rules except for the 1 or 2 IVS rule(s). Even the default motion ones, I disable because they can cause false alarms.

 

[EvanVanVan]

@EvanVanVan It's very unlikely that all rules will trigger.

My approach, I disable all the rules except for the IVS ones. Even the plain motion one, I disable because they will cause false alarms.

True, ty for the suggestion. I guess really I could just do it one by one as they pop up in BI... rather than trying to tackle them all at once.