Any good deals today?
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As we told you in your other thread, 16 cameras all of the same 2.8 or 3.6mm fixed focal length rarely result in the solutions we want.
Almost every big box store, consumer grade cameras and all-in-one-box kits come with either 2.8mm or 3.6mm cameras. I started with the four 2.8mm camera box kit system and I was like "I can place one on each corner of the house and see my whole property and the whole neighborhood." A newbie loves the wide angle "I can see the whole neighborhood" of the 2.8mm fixed wide angle lens. I LOVED IT WHEN I PUT IT UP. I could see everything that would be blocked looking out the windows.
It is easy to get lured in to thinking the wide angle "see the whole neighborhood" because you are watching it and you see a neighbor go by and you are like "Look at that I can tell that is Heather out walking." and "Yeah I can tell our neighbor 4 down just passed by". Or you watch back the video of you walking around and are like "yeah I can tell that is me".
Little do we realize how much WE can identify a known person just by hair style, clothing, walking pace, gait, etc.
Then one day the door checker comes by. Total stranger. Totally useless video other than what time the door checking happened.
Then you realize that this wide-angle see the whole neighborhood comes at a cost and that cost is not being able to IDENTIFY who did it. These 2.8mm wide angle cameras are great overview cameras or to IDENTIFY someone within 10 feet of the camera. At 40 feet out you need a different camera.
Further, very rarely are the cameras in the all-in-one box kits on the ideal MP/sensor ratio, so they perform poorly at night.
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Almost every big box store, consumer grade cameras and all-in-one-box kits come with either 2.8mm or 3.6mm cameras. I started with the four 2.8mm camera box kit system and I was like "I can place one on each corner of the house and see my whole property and the whole neighborhood." A newbie loves the wide angle "I can see the whole neighborhood" of the 2.8mm fixed wide angle lens. I LOVED IT WHEN I PUT IT UP. I could see everything that would be blocked looking out the windows.
It is easy to get lured in to thinking the wide angle "see the whole neighborhood" because you are watching it and you see a neighbor go by and you are like "Look at that I can tell that is Heather out walking." and "Yeah I can tell our neighbor 4 down just passed by". Or you watch back the video of you walking around and are like "yeah I can tell that is me".
Little do we realize how much WE can identify a known person just by hair style, clothing, walking pace, gait, etc.
Then one day the door checker comes by. Total stranger. Totally useless video other than what time the door checking happened.
Then you realize that this wide-angle see the whole neighborhood comes at a cost and that cost is not being able to IDENTIFY who did it. These 2.8mm wide angle cameras are great overview cameras or to IDENTIFY someone within 10 feet of the camera. At 40 feet out you need a different camera.
Further, very rarely are the cameras in the all-in-one box kits on the ideal MP/sensor ratio, so they perform poorly at night.
Good system?
Is Lorex system NP4K4F-1612WD a good set up? It currently on sale for $1,295. Just want to know if it’s worth the price. Or is there any other 16 channel system that someone recommends?
As said above, we all pretty much started with 2.8mm cameras and were happy with being able to see everything until we realized we needed more detail.
I have put together the post below with my experience since having been enlightened. It shows where I started, where I was along the way, and then where I am now and how much difference the proper height, placement, and focal length can make.
ipcamtalk.com
However, all of that being said, I have now gone full circle and added cameras to my roof so I can see ALL of the things. Definitely a hard D on the DORI scale with this one.
I have put together the post below with my experience since having been enlightened. It shows where I started, where I was along the way, and then where I am now and how much difference the proper height, placement, and focal length can make.
"I want 2.8mm cameras everywhere to see everything..." - This is why you need specific FOVs with purposeful focal lengths.
I have gained a lot of knowledge since I signed up and wanted to share my experience and examples of improvements and changes for others who are coming from a "I want 2.8mm cameras everywhere to see everything" system mentality. My ongoing "build/looking for advice" thread can be found here...
However, all of that being said, I have now gone full circle and added cameras to my roof so I can see ALL of the things. Definitely a hard D on the DORI scale with this one.
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During this black Friday / cyber Monday time frame in the past we used to see deals from LaView, Lorex, Amcrest, Montavue, Nelly's Security, and others ..
Recently, tho I have not see deals on kits which have larger sensor camera models ..
Recently Andy ( EmpireTecAndy ) has gotten into doing more deals, so you want to check out his deals.
I would also check and see if Nelly's Security got any deals ( they're another vendor here )