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Is there a reason why not all of my newest clips are showing up?
 

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Right back at you!
EDIT: nevermind it seems in the new version it seperates alerts and clips, in the old version it did not

issue solved, i think

Alright, well. Not all of my recent clips are showing up in the beta interface, but when I go back to the normal interface I can see all my latest clips...
 
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Also suggestion: in the web interface when you download a clip it should be in a converted format such as avi or mp4 not bvr, since you would rarely be in the web interface on the computer which can play a bvr file
 

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Hello,

Just ran into some issues after restarting my BI machine.
First the htm page displayed "LAN Only" as an error and now the page is completely blank.


Browser is Chrome Canary, But im still getting the blank page in normal chrome

I have connected to the machine and verified that BI is still running.

I resolved this by restarting the Blue Iris Service within windows.

and whats going on here with BI's website trying to connect to my htm page.
Blue Iris - Video Security Software
 

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This may sound crazy but it would be really cool if the audio for group streams were in stereo so the L-R position of each camera's sound lined up with the L-R position of the camera frame in the browser.
 

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I am able to get UI3 beta b2 up on an iPad Safari browser.

However, Chrome on iPad does not work. On Chrome, I get login screen. After successful login, it starts rendering the UI, but then the browser goes blank screen on me. Is anyone getting same/similar behavior with Chrome on iPad?

On iPad Safari, I am not able to go into fullscreen mode by tapping the fullscreen icon in lower right corner. All the other icons in the lower right corner do respond to my finger tap. Only the fullscreen icon seems to be unresponsive.

Question: Perhaps I don't need fullscreen mode. Is it possible to have option to turn off panels on left-hand side and on the top by default? (For view-only devices like my Surface and iPads, I just want to display my group webcast in live view 24x7.)

Thanks again bp2008 for your excellent work.
 

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EDIT: nevermind it seems in the new version it seperates alerts and clips, in the old version it did not

issue solved, i think

Alright, well. Not all of my recent clips are showing up in the beta interface, but when I go back to the normal interface I can see all my latest clips...
Alerts are not the same as clips, and they have always been on separate tabs of the UI. A clip is a file on your disk. An alert is basically a bookmark to a location in a clip that is created when a camera is triggered.

If you are not seeing all your clips, that could be because:
  • You are looking at the alerts tab
  • Your "filter by" option isn't set to all cameras
  • You actually are seeing all clips, but not knowing what a clip is
  • You might have checked "Flagged only"
  • You might have applied a date filter
  • The lists only go back 1200 or something items unless you choose a date range
  • Your clip database in Blue Iris may need repaired
Or there could be something I haven't thought of.

Also suggestion: in the web interface when you download a clip it should be in a converted format such as avi or mp4 not bvr, since you would rarely be in the web interface on the computer which can play a bvr file
I agree that would be nice, and if Blue Iris ever adds remote-export ability I will happily implement it in the web UI.

Hello,

Just ran into some issues after restarting my BI machine.
First the htm page displayed "LAN Only" as an error and now the page is completely blank.


Browser is Chrome Canary, But im still getting the blank page in normal chrome

I have connected to the machine and verified that BI is still running.

I resolved this by restarting the Blue Iris Service within windows.
I have no idea what this means. I've never seen "LAN Only" where the webpage should be.

and whats going on here with BI's website trying to connect to my htm page.
Blue Iris - Video Security Software
That is news to me.

I'm guessing this has something to do with the option on the first tab of Blue Iris Options where it keeps track of your IP address using your license key to help people find their servers when they don't have DDNS configured.

This may sound crazy but it would be really cool if the audio for group streams were in stereo so the L-R position of each camera's sound lined up with the L-R position of the camera frame in the browser.
Hah. I believe I can adjust the 3D position of audio sources using the Web Audio API, but I only get one audio stream to work with. If you are viewing a group of cameras then all their audio streams have been blended into one by Blue Iris before it ever reaches the web UI.

I am able to get UI3 beta b2 up on an iPad Safari browser.

However, Chrome on iPad does not work. On Chrome, I get login screen. After successful login, it starts rendering the UI, but then the browser goes blank screen on me. Is anyone getting same/similar behavior with Chrome on iPad?

On iPad Safari, I am not able to go into fullscreen mode by tapping the fullscreen icon in lower right corner. All the other icons in the lower right corner do respond to my finger tap. Only the fullscreen icon seems to be unresponsive.

Question: Perhaps I don't need fullscreen mode. Is it possible to have option to turn off panels on left-hand side and on the top by default? (For view-only devices like my Surface and iPads, I just want to display my group webcast in live view 24x7.)

Thanks again bp2008 for your excellent work.
I will look into these issues and see if I can reproduce them. Thanks for reporting.

I imagine there isn't anything I can do about fullscreen mode not working in Safari on the ipad. It is one of those things where it either works or it doesn't.
 

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I cannot get the h.264 to work on this version of Edge:
no work.JPG
But it will work on this version:
works.JPG
I The older version is on W10 1607 and I can't update to latest W10 due to no sound working on pc. The error UI3 is reporting is
error.JPG

I changed my webserver settings in BI so my streaming profile 2 is set @ 512kbps and then I get this error:
erro2.JPG
 
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UPDATE to above post: I just installed Fall update on W10 1709 and now it works fine...AND my sound works !! Never could get my sound to work on the creator update and I hated not being current. So the problem would still be there for people not running the latest version of Edge. It did work fine by selecting "jpeg best quality"
 

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Beta 4 has been uploaded. The link is in the first post.

Beta 4 fixes or works around some of the issues on iOS. I can't fix fullscreen mode there, so I hid the button. Context menus don't work on iOS in either Safari or Chrome. H.264 doesn't work. Therefore audio doesn't work either. Really, if you want to access Blue Iris from iOS you are much better off using the official iOS app.
 
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Trying the beta, had a few hurdles to get over at first, but seems to be working well now. Not sure if this has anything to do with the initial issues I had - but I had the "Limit decoding unless required" checkbox checked on all of my 18 cameras, and then when I copied over the UI3 files into the www directory and tried to load it in a web page at port 81 (I have mine set to 81 instead of 80) I got a blank page in the browser and a few seconds later Blue Iris crashed. I'm running 4.6.4.6 x64, Intel HD hardware acceleration set to Yes (but no post-proc, since that makes CPU usage worse). I turned off all of the Limit decoding check boxes, rebooted the PC (Windows 10 x64 build 1709, 32GB RAM, Core i7-6700K @ 4GHz, Intel 530 MB and Nvidia GT 1030) -- and then it worked. I then re-checked all of the "Limit decoding unless required" checkboxes, and it still worked! Not sure what happened there, but at least it's all working.

I really like how I can click on an individual camera and then it comes up as the full screen view of that camera.
Also amazing how this works on a iPhone /iPad - there are some small issues with the menu getting stuck and some other items, but just that it can even play back is awesome. Really fantastic work on this interface - I have been using UI2 for several years, and think that is awesome as well.

Question for you bp2008 :

I combed through your code a bit, but I'm no HTML expert, just a hobbyist. If I wanted to embed one of the H.264 streams from a camera in a separate web page, without the extra controls, groups, CPU graphs, etc and select Encoder profile "Streaming 1", no timeout - i.e. to build myself a custom webpage that just showed a couple of my cameras using H.264 for network efficiency and then open them in Safari on an old iPad somewhere else in my house as a monitor -- any tips on how I would do that? I can do it using this code:
<img style="max-width: 1920px; max-height: 1080px" src="http://192.168.195.98:81/mjpg/GreatRoomHD/video.mjpg" />
But the bandwidth usage is horribly high.

Your player seems far more efficient - but I can't figure out how to iFrame a portion of it or otherwise just get a single camera stream... maybe that's too much to ask in the context of this forum for your beta of UI3, if so I understand, but I figured it never hurts to ask.
 

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@bp2008 I just tried b4 . On iPad, unable to get passed session error as shown in screenshot for both Safari and Chrome. Any ideas? (I did clear browser cache)
I found the cause of this and will release beta 5 with a fix shortly.
 

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Trying the beta, had a few hurdles to get over at first, but seems to be working well now. Not sure if this has anything to do with the initial issues I had - but I had the "Limit decoding unless required" checkbox checked on all of my 18 cameras, and then when I copied over the UI3 files into the www directory and tried to load it in a web page at port 81 (I have mine set to 81 instead of 80) I got a blank page in the browser and a few seconds later Blue Iris crashed. I'm running 4.6.4.6 x64, Intel HD hardware acceleration set to Yes (but no post-proc, since that makes CPU usage worse). I turned off all of the Limit decoding check boxes, rebooted the PC (Windows 10 x64 build 1709, 32GB RAM, Core i7-6700K @ 4GHz, Intel 530 MB and Nvidia GT 1030) -- and then it worked. I then re-checked all of the "Limit decoding unless required" checkboxes, and it still worked! Not sure what happened there, but at least it's all working.
I imagine it had something to do with the limit decoding option. When you open a group view in a web interface or mobile app, Blue Iris suddenly has to switch all those cameras out of "limited decoding mode" all at the same time and I'm guessing this transition is a bit unstable.

Question for you bp2008 :

I combed through your code a bit, but I'm no HTML expert, just a hobbyist. If I wanted to embed one of the H.264 streams from a camera in a separate web page, without the extra controls, groups, CPU graphs, etc and select Encoder profile "Streaming 1", no timeout - i.e. to build myself a custom webpage that just showed a couple of my cameras using H.264 for network efficiency and then open them in Safari on an old iPad somewhere else in my house as a monitor -- any tips on how I would do that? I can do it using this code:
<img style="max-width: 1920px; max-height: 1080px" src="http://192.168.195.98:81/mjpg/GreatRoomHD/video.mjpg" />
But the bandwidth usage is horribly high.

Your player seems far more efficient - but I can't figure out how to iFrame a portion of it or otherwise just get a single camera stream... maybe that's too much to ask in the context of this forum for your beta of UI3, if so I understand, but I figured it never hurts to ask.
It isn't really possible to iframe just a portion of the UI. You can use a URL parameter "cam=frontyard" to automatically maximize a camera upon startup though.

Here is what I suggest. From within UI3, right click the video and choose "Open HLS Stream". Then right click the video player that pops up and choose "Open stream in New Tab". The URL it opens is a much simpler page that just displays an HLS stream from Blue Iris using a 3rd party video player component. Because this is able to use the browser's native video player, it is a great deal more efficient and more compatible than UI3's normal H.264 player. But it is delayed by several seconds and locked to the Streaming 0 profile.

If that doesn't work out, you could always try the official Blue Iris iOS app.
 
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I imagine it had something to do with the limit decoding option. When you open a group view in a web interface or mobile app, Blue Iris suddenly has to switch all those cameras out of "limited decoding mode" all at the same time and I'm guessing this transition is a bit unstable.



It isn't really possible to iframe just a portion of the UI. You can use a URL parameter "cam=frontyard" to automatically maximize a camera upon startup though.

Here is what I suggest. From within UI3, right click the video and choose "Open HLS Stream". Then right click the video player that pops up and choose "Open stream in New Tab". The URL it opens is a much simpler page that just displays an HLS stream from Blue Iris using a 3rd party video player component. Because this is able to use the browser's native video player, it is a great deal more efficient and more compatible than UI3's normal H.264 player. But it is delayed by several seconds and locked to the Streaming 0 profile.

If that doesn't work out, you could always try the official Blue Iris iOS app.
Thanks for the quick reply. I tried the "Open HLS Stream" idea - the livestream feed seems to work. Thanks for the tip! I do own and use the Blue Iris app on the iPhone -- I'm trying to make a custom web page that just shows a few high priority cameras on a 24x7 basis. I'll see if I can embed the livestream?cam={cam-name} into a frame or something next.
 

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@bp2008 I don't know if anyone else has asked for the following feature, but in Blue Iris, each alert I see also includes "Motion" or "External" or "Group" tagging. See screenshot below. This detail is useful for me. Any chance there is room in UI3 for this info in the Alerts tab screen?

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