Can Cisco Catalyst 3750X handle Mini PTZ

[Flintstone61]

My home switch is a Cisco SG200-26FP 26-port Gigabit with 12 POE ( af ) ports.

 

[duplo]

about 20 cams and 2 ptz

so 20 cams with 5-7w and 2 ptz with 15-18w max

= poe of around 180w

seems legit that you need 1100w psu for firing your house.

 

[Flintstone61]

Its a commercial BI install at a Condo....
They can afford the Juice.

 

[Flintstone61]

If the switch detects a lower watt PSU, then it does the math and divides the power across the ports unless you can get in and manage the switch....I do not know what power options Cisco has such as allocation for 1 port to a 30 watts etc....
But if you run the 1100 watt, all ports have all 802.3AT available to them.
If you run a 715 Watt you maybe stuck with 802.3af available power.

 

[Flintstone61]

my 715 watt runs the cams and the PTZ's fine on a 24 port Switch. its just a loud MOfo...
the 1100 watt idles along like its sleeping.

 

[Flintstone61]

if the OP has a 3750x with 48 ports and a 330 watt supply, it may run funky.

 

[duplo]

yeah..

24*15,4 = 370W

what is the switch doing with with the 350w left ?

24*25.5 = 612W

on 48port model with all ports 25.5w you need 2 psu for sure.


looks more like another problem
maybe config or cable

go to the management console and post output

show env power

sometimes the device does not talk to the switch so need to force power to the port. this is a sometimes CDP/LLDP problem

power inline static max
for the specific port

 

[Flintstone61]

take about 90-100 watts to operate the switch....

 

[Flintstone61]

Just because a PSu is rated at 1100 watts, doesn't mean it is mindlessly pumping out full wattage at 100% power like a dumb stump. It must have some ability to throttle or it would be a wasteful device. times a Bazillion Cisco switches.

 

[Flintstone61]

Krauts can be Sauer at times.....
< 1/2 Kraut...lol.....
he probably doesnt need anymore than the Yuanley for a home operation....If it actually is a true Gigabit POE+ switch. not a Fast ethernet (10/100)
Cisco is overkill for some applications. but not mine...

 

[Flintstone61]

I don't remember any of my Cisco command line from school...:/
I'm probably better off not going into the switch and making things worse LOL....

 

[duplo]

Cisco is overkill for some applications. but not mine...

these switches scares me.
when running 48port model and all ports on poe+ on near max they catch fire easily when not running in cooled serverroom. and even then they can catch fire.

also some of these devices have huge idle power consumption and produce heat doing nothing.

 

[dubber]

is it a 24 or 48 port switch? if it's 48 I think it needs an 1100 watt PSU to offer full 802.3at support to all supported POE+ ports.
Look at the PSU on the back of the switch.....should tell you the wattage.

I was given a 48 port switch.
Model is 3750X, the current existing power supply that came with it is C3KX-PWR-110WAC

I'll be running at max 6-8 regular cams and 1 MINI PTZ.

cisco is overkill for my needs but I got the cisco for free

 

[dubber]

Ok, So I got a 2nd PSU and putty into the switch. It's showing 30W Max for power output for each port.

Last night, when I tried to use the MINI PTZ with the cisco switch, I got the same issue. At idle it's fine. When it gets triggered and it's trying to perform PTZ, it would loose signal.

The model I have is WS-C3750X-48PF-S V06




I would get the following in BI Log

1 7/12/2023 9:20:25.783 PM PTZ Signal: network retry
1 7/12/2023 9:20:35.248 PM PTZ PTZ: 12002: /onvif/ptz_service
1 7/12/2023 9:20:45.175 PM PTZ Signal: Failed to connect
1 7/12/2023 9:20:55.683 PM PTZ Signal: network retry
1 7/12/2023 9:21:16.121 PM PTZ Signal: Failed to connect
1 7/12/2023 9:21:25.941 PM PTZ Signal: network retry
4 7/12/2023 9:21:29.683 PM PTZ Signal: restored
1 7/12/2023 9:21:30.748 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:32.776 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:34.825 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:36.908 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:38.928 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:40.965 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:44.347 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:46.367 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:48.373 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:50.436 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:52.488 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:54.517 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:56.605 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:21:58.613 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:22:00.683 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:22:02.710 PM PTZ Events: request 00000194
1 7/12/2023 9:22:04.809 PM PTZ Events: request 8000ffff
1 7/12/2023 9:22:07.009 PM PTZ Events: request 8000ffff
1 7/12/2023 9:22:09.059 PM PTZ Events: request 8000ffff
1 7/12/2023 9:22:11.144 PM PTZ Events: request 8000ffff
1 7/12/2023 9:22:17.252 PM PTZ Events: request 8000ffff
1 7/12/2023 9:22:19.312 PM PTZ Events: request 8000ffff

 

[Flintstone61]

Perhaps you've ruled out the Switch now as a point of failure. Now it could be " is the hardware in the new cam faulty?" Or how about how the cam was " found" by Blue iris- " Find Inspect" Perhaps if it was enabled as a different camera it may act better or some feature/setting may be enabled.
I can't remember if you tried using a 12VDC 1.0-1.5 amp power source as well to see if it stays alive then?
How long is the run?
Did you terminate your own Cabling?
Have you run it on a patch cable at the switch to see if it acts normal in a Bench Test?

 

[duplo]

only what you can do is buy or borrow cheap poe+ switch for testing.

same error: camera, cable/connector or blueiris

this all has nothing to do with the psu itself, console shows 30w max per port, should be also shown before with the 1000W psu.

 

[dubber]

only what you can do is buy or borrow cheap poe+ switch for testing.

same error: camera, cable/connector or blueiris

this all has nothing to do with the psu itself, console shows 30w max per port, should be also shown before with the 1000W psu.

I was talking to another network technician at work about this, he said 1psu is enough. One PSU will only power 20+ ports at poe+ and the rest regular , if I have two, it will be all ports at poe+

So I tested it by just running the switch with one psu and it did still show 30w

It shows 30w with one and shows 30w with both PSU running

I make my own cables.

When I go back to my own cheap yuanley switch, the camera is fine.

I got another tp link that I bought from Amazon prime day that I'll test it with. (TL-SG1008MP). Just waiting for delivery.

 

[duplo]

sure it shows 30w as max
but you cant go over max psu limit

if the limit is reached it will shut down any port by random if asked for more.
you can configure some ports manual, so these ports will shut down at last.

never the less you want only 1 port poe+, so one 350W psu would also be fine

 

[dubber]

Perhaps you've ruled out the Switch now as a point of failure. Now it could be " is the hardware in the new cam faulty?" Or how about how the cam was " found" by Blue iris- " Find Inspect" Perhaps if it was enabled as a different camera it may act better or some feature/setting may be enabled.
I can't remember if you tried using a 12VDC 1.0-1.5 amp power source as well to see if it stays alive then?
How long is the run?
Did you terminate your own Cabling?
Have you run it on a patch cable at the switch to see if it acts normal in a Bench Test?

The switch is in the back of the garage and the camera is outside the garage. Approximately 20/25ft

Yes I do my own cables. Same cables work with cheap yuanley poe switch

Haven't tried 12vdc. Don't have one

How can I find inspect the camera differently in bi with Cisco switch vs cheap poe switch?

I got another TP-Link switch that I'll test it with TL-SG1008MP

 

[Flintstone61]

I don't know Dude thats weird. I plugged a 3560x in one day and never looked back. I let it run on defaults and the Hikvision( Jidetech) PTZ's have been fine since day 1 with a 715Watt PSU.... I Never went in an managed anything. just let it run as a Layer2 switch even though it's a Layer 3 capable switch.