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Damascus Has Fallen: Assad Has Reportedly Left The Capital
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Next radical islamist country for a new generation of terrorists.
We seen this in africa , one dictator has fallen and another even crazier arrive.
Gadaffi was so bad, CIA had to install a democrat. Lol
We seen this in africa , one dictator has fallen and another even crazier arrive.
Gadaffi was so bad, CIA had to install a democrat. Lol
Yep
As bad as Assad is, I think it’s (was) the only secular country left in the region that will now be under Taliban/ISIS jihadist rule.
Basically EVERYONE loses
As bad as Assad is, I think it’s (was) the only secular country left in the region that will now be under Taliban/ISIS jihadist rule.
Basically EVERYONE loses
Many have no clue whats happened in Syria, just a month out from Trump taking office.
Like numerous other overthrown governments, the US had a hand in it. Our country is not being run by people with the best interest of the country in mind, quite the opposite, the USA is being controlled by those who actually support terrorism, Islamic Jihad, and the ultimate destruction of our way of life.
They hate you and want you dead and are removing pieces from the chessboard one at a time and have been for 50+ years
Like numerous other overthrown governments, the US had a hand in it. Our country is not being run by people with the best interest of the country in mind, quite the opposite, the USA is being controlled by those who actually support terrorism, Islamic Jihad, and the ultimate destruction of our way of life.
They hate you and want you dead and are removing pieces from the chessboard one at a time and have been for 50+ years
I wish I knew more and intend to read up. There are curious things surrounding Israel that I dont understand.
Many think this is the end game. Many say I should open my eyes...
Many think this is the end game. Many say I should open my eyes...
ISIS has never attacked Israel not even once and neither has Israel ever launched a single air strike against ISIS in Syria since ISIS tore through Syria and Iraq.
Yet ISIS has attacked Syrian forces and Russian forces. Even Al-Bagdadi the ISIS leader was leaving just miles of Nato member Turkey border. ISIS was also freely shipping oil to Turkey, under the full watch of US drones.
Here Sec John Kerry leaked audio. They new ISIS was growing, they knew Russia was called there legally according to UN rules by a state. They knew Russia was going after ISIS. That is why in 2016 Nato member Turkey F16 literally shot down a Russian SU24 attack jet (that had no radar or any air to air capability or missile warning alert system) which was attacking ISIS targets. The US backed rebel forces then recorded a video of murdering the co pilot of the jet and they also shot a video of them killing the Russian rescue helicopter crew after it landed with a US provided TOW missile. Russia and Syria have tolerated a lot.
Assad was laughing, he didn't believe that a regime change will happen there. Why would he, I mean that country always respected other religions. World heritage sites built before 2000+ years remained, woman could get free education, had equal rights for ancestral properties, woman and girls where banned from covering their face with burqa. So Assad did everything right, yes he held on to power (Saudi Arabia rulers does too, as do Jordan and most of other middle eastern countries) but he did everything right, so he had no reason to believe west would topple him.
Even Shah of Iran was toppled by the CIA and islamists came into power. Same goes to Libya.
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I am having a challenge imagining that extent of expansion is possible, especially after Israel gave back the Sinai
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Syria ..
Part of the battle against Iran ..
pay attention to the natural gas field shared by Iran and Qatar ..
Asad chose to side with Russia / Iran on this one .. and thus anti-EU anti-Turkey anti-Qatar anti-Israel anti-Saudi anti-Jordan anti-USA
Had Asad chosen pro-EU pro-Turkey pro-Qatar pro-Saudi pro-Jordan pro-USA .. Asad would still be in power.
The Iran–Iraq–Syria pipeline (called the Friendship Pipeline by the governments involved and the Islamic gas pipeline by some Western sources[2]) is a proposed natural gas pipeline running from the Iranian South Pars/North Dome Gas-Condensate field towards Europe via Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon to supply European customers as well as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[1] The pipeline was planned to be 5,600 km (3,500 mi) long and have a diameter of 142 centimetres (56 in).[1] A previous proposal, known as the Persian Pipeline, had seen a route from Iran's South Pars to Europe via Turkey; it was apparently abandoned after the Swiss energy company Elektrizitätsgesellschaft Laufenburg halted its contract with Iran in October 2010 in the face of pressure over U.S. sanctions against Iran.[3][4]
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The Qatar–Turkey pipeline was a proposal to build a natural gas pipeline from the Iranian–Qatari South Pars/North Dome Gas-Condensate field towards Turkey, where it could connect with the Nabucco pipeline to supply European customers as well as Turkey. One proposed route to Turkey was via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria,[1][2] and another was through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq.[3][4] Agence France-Presse claimed Syria's rationale for rejecting the Qatar proposal was "to protect the interests of [its] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."[1]
found a top notch article on this from Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. :
In 2009, Assad announced that he would refuse to sign the agreement to allow the pipeline to run through Syria “to protect the interests of our Russian ally.”
In their view, our war against Bashar Assad did not begin with the peaceful civil protests of the Arab Spring in 2011. Instead it began in 2000, when Qatar proposed to construct a $10 billion, 1,500 kilometer pipeline through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Qatar shares with Iran the South Pars/North Dome gas field, the world’s richest natural gas repository. The international trade embargo until recently prohibited Iran from selling gas abroad. Meanwhile, Qatar’s gas can reach European marketsonly if it is liquefied and shipped by sea, a route that restricts volume and dramatically raises costs. The proposed pipeline would have linked Qatar directly to European energy markets via distribution terminals in Turkey, which would pocket rich transit fees. The Qatar/Turkey pipeline would give the Sunni kingdoms of the Persian Gulf decisive domination of world natural gas markets and strengthen Qatar, America’s closest ally in the Arab world. Qatar hosts two massive American military bases and the U.S. Central Command’s Mideast headquarters.
The EU, which gets 30 percent of its gas from Russia, was equally hungry for the pipeline, which would have given its members cheap energy and relief from Vladimir Putin’s stifling economic and political leverage. Turkey, Russia’s second largest gas customer, was particularly anxious to end its reliance on its ancient rival and to position itself as the lucrative transect hub for Asian fuels to EU markets. The Qatari pipeline would have benefited Saudi Arabia’s conservative Sunni monarchy by giving it a foothold in Shia-dominated Syria. The Saudis’ geopolitical goal is to contain the economic and political power of the kingdom’s principal rival, Iran, a Shiite state, and close ally of Bashar Assad. The Saudi monarchy viewed the U.S.-sponsored Shiite takeover in Iraq (and, more recently, the termination of the Iran trade embargo) as a demotion to its regional power status and was already engaged in a proxy war against Tehran in Yemen, highlighted by the Saudi genocide against the Iranian backed Houthi tribe.
Of course, the Russians, who sell 70 percent of their gas exports to Europe, viewed the Qatar/Turkey pipeline as an existential threat. In Putin’s view, the Qatar pipeline is a NATO plot to change the status quo, deprive Russia of its only foothold in the Middle East, strangle the Russian economy and end Russian leverage in the European energy market. In 2009, Assad announced that he would refuse to sign the agreement to allow the pipeline to run through Syria “to protect the interests of our Russian ally.”
Assad further enraged the Gulf’s Sunni monarchs by endorsing a Russian-approved “Islamic pipeline” running from Iran’s side of the gas field through Syria and to the ports of Lebanon. The Islamic pipeline would make Shiite Iran, not Sunni Qatar, the principal supplier to the European energy market and dramatically increase Tehran’s influence in the Middle East and the world. Israel also was understandably determined to derail the Islamic pipeline, which would enrich Iran and Syria and presumably strengthen their proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas.
Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria. It is important to note that this was well before the Arab Spring-engendered uprising against Assad.
Part of the battle against Iran ..
pay attention to the natural gas field shared by Iran and Qatar ..
Asad chose to side with Russia / Iran on this one .. and thus anti-EU anti-Turkey anti-Qatar anti-Israel anti-Saudi anti-Jordan anti-USA
Had Asad chosen pro-EU pro-Turkey pro-Qatar pro-Saudi pro-Jordan pro-USA .. Asad would still be in power.
The Iran–Iraq–Syria pipeline (called the Friendship Pipeline by the governments involved and the Islamic gas pipeline by some Western sources[2]) is a proposed natural gas pipeline running from the Iranian South Pars/North Dome Gas-Condensate field towards Europe via Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon to supply European customers as well as Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[1] The pipeline was planned to be 5,600 km (3,500 mi) long and have a diameter of 142 centimetres (56 in).[1] A previous proposal, known as the Persian Pipeline, had seen a route from Iran's South Pars to Europe via Turkey; it was apparently abandoned after the Swiss energy company Elektrizitätsgesellschaft Laufenburg halted its contract with Iran in October 2010 in the face of pressure over U.S. sanctions against Iran.[3][4]
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The Qatar–Turkey pipeline was a proposal to build a natural gas pipeline from the Iranian–Qatari South Pars/North Dome Gas-Condensate field towards Turkey, where it could connect with the Nabucco pipeline to supply European customers as well as Turkey. One proposed route to Turkey was via Saudi Arabia, Jordan, and Syria,[1][2] and another was through Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq.[3][4] Agence France-Presse claimed Syria's rationale for rejecting the Qatar proposal was "to protect the interests of [its] Russian ally, which is Europe's top supplier of natural gas."[1]
found a top notch article on this from Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. :
In 2009, Assad announced that he would refuse to sign the agreement to allow the pipeline to run through Syria “to protect the interests of our Russian ally.”
In their view, our war against Bashar Assad did not begin with the peaceful civil protests of the Arab Spring in 2011. Instead it began in 2000, when Qatar proposed to construct a $10 billion, 1,500 kilometer pipeline through Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria and Turkey. Qatar shares with Iran the South Pars/North Dome gas field, the world’s richest natural gas repository. The international trade embargo until recently prohibited Iran from selling gas abroad. Meanwhile, Qatar’s gas can reach European marketsonly if it is liquefied and shipped by sea, a route that restricts volume and dramatically raises costs. The proposed pipeline would have linked Qatar directly to European energy markets via distribution terminals in Turkey, which would pocket rich transit fees. The Qatar/Turkey pipeline would give the Sunni kingdoms of the Persian Gulf decisive domination of world natural gas markets and strengthen Qatar, America’s closest ally in the Arab world. Qatar hosts two massive American military bases and the U.S. Central Command’s Mideast headquarters.
The EU, which gets 30 percent of its gas from Russia, was equally hungry for the pipeline, which would have given its members cheap energy and relief from Vladimir Putin’s stifling economic and political leverage. Turkey, Russia’s second largest gas customer, was particularly anxious to end its reliance on its ancient rival and to position itself as the lucrative transect hub for Asian fuels to EU markets. The Qatari pipeline would have benefited Saudi Arabia’s conservative Sunni monarchy by giving it a foothold in Shia-dominated Syria. The Saudis’ geopolitical goal is to contain the economic and political power of the kingdom’s principal rival, Iran, a Shiite state, and close ally of Bashar Assad. The Saudi monarchy viewed the U.S.-sponsored Shiite takeover in Iraq (and, more recently, the termination of the Iran trade embargo) as a demotion to its regional power status and was already engaged in a proxy war against Tehran in Yemen, highlighted by the Saudi genocide against the Iranian backed Houthi tribe.
Of course, the Russians, who sell 70 percent of their gas exports to Europe, viewed the Qatar/Turkey pipeline as an existential threat. In Putin’s view, the Qatar pipeline is a NATO plot to change the status quo, deprive Russia of its only foothold in the Middle East, strangle the Russian economy and end Russian leverage in the European energy market. In 2009, Assad announced that he would refuse to sign the agreement to allow the pipeline to run through Syria “to protect the interests of our Russian ally.”
Assad further enraged the Gulf’s Sunni monarchs by endorsing a Russian-approved “Islamic pipeline” running from Iran’s side of the gas field through Syria and to the ports of Lebanon. The Islamic pipeline would make Shiite Iran, not Sunni Qatar, the principal supplier to the European energy market and dramatically increase Tehran’s influence in the Middle East and the world. Israel also was understandably determined to derail the Islamic pipeline, which would enrich Iran and Syria and presumably strengthen their proxies, Hezbollah and Hamas.
Secret cables and reports by the U.S., Saudi and Israeli intelligence agencies indicate that the moment Assad rejected the Qatari pipeline, military and intelligence planners quickly arrived at the consensus that fomenting a Sunni uprising in Syria to overthrow the uncooperative Bashar Assad was a feasible path to achieving the shared objective of completing the Qatar/Turkey gas link. In 2009, according to WikiLeaks, soon after Bashar Assad rejected the Qatar pipeline, the CIA began funding opposition groups in Syria. It is important to note that this was well before the Arab Spring-engendered uprising against Assad.
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Russian heavy transport aircraft are removing S400 and S300 from base in Syria. While tracked armor and artillery are making their way towards the naval base onto the transport ships.
Russian military bloggers say it's impossible to defend the base without boots on the ground due to cheap drones strapped with RPG and explosives. They need a buffer area of 50 miles from drones and artillery. They also don't have the Wagner group.
So Syria is now free for all. Israel will annex regions east while Turkey will annex regions west and I believe Turkey and Israel both are interested in northern Syria, where the Oil fields are located. Turkey politicians have made it no secret that they want those oil fields. While the greater Israel map does have some parts of those oil fields and Damascus city.
Russian military bloggers say it's impossible to defend the base without boots on the ground due to cheap drones strapped with RPG and explosives. They need a buffer area of 50 miles from drones and artillery. They also don't have the Wagner group.
So Syria is now free for all. Israel will annex regions east while Turkey will annex regions west and I believe Turkey and Israel both are interested in northern Syria, where the Oil fields are located. Turkey politicians have made it no secret that they want those oil fields. While the greater Israel map does have some parts of those oil fields and Damascus city.
Had some bombs left and too expensive transport.
Why not use and then left like in afghanistan ?
Why not use and then left like in afghanistan ?