Drive-thru KFC in Gainsborough fines people driving past

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Here, if such abuse occurs, you call a towing service, have the car towed off the lot. Then the car owner has to go claim it and pay the fee it cost to have it towed. Once or twice in doing that would cut a lot of that out after wasting half a day to retrieve their car.
And almost certainly to the tune of more bottom line cost/expense in time and money than the aforementioned fines.
 

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That's the point, the offender has to actually put in effort and time to get their car back. Not just pay/mailin a fine.

I spend too much of my life watching these videos... I find them so funny, especially with his dry humour...
 

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Here, if such abuse occurs, you call a towing service, have the car towed off the lot. Then the car owner has to go claim it and pay the fee it cost to have it towed. Once or twice in doing that would cut a lot of that out after wasting half a day to retrieve their car.
In the UK you can't. It's been illegal to tow or clamp a vehicle on private land since 2012. the UK Government changed the rules after abuse by some private clamping companies, so now only Councils and the Police can clamp or tow and only on public property.

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In the UK you can't. It's been illegal to tow or clamp a vehicle on private land since 2012. the UK Government changed the rules after abuse by some private clamping companies, so now only Councils and the Police can clamp or tow and only on public property.
So someone could park their car across your front grass and you'd just have to live with it?
 

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If you mean on your front lawn then I guess the Police could probably handle that as they could seize the vehicle for being used in a crime (parking on the lawn would cause criminal damage to the grass). If there was no damage, I'm sure there are other laws that might apply in those circumstances.

One thing different in the UK to the US, is nearly everyone has a boundary fence or wall. Very few people here have their front garden open to the road. This is a posher area of a major UK city, although many more modest areas are the same. Whereas the large houses I see in many of your pictures have lawns open to the road, looking down this street, you'll see every house is walled off. I guess the British just prefer to mark their boundaries a bit more:

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If you mean on your front lawn then I guess the Police could probably handle that as they could seize the vehicle for being used in a crime (parking on the lawn would cause criminal damage to the grass). If there was no damage, I'm sure there are other laws that might apply in those circumstances.

One thing different in the UK to the US, is nearly everyone has a boundary fence or wall. Very few people here have their front garden open to the road. This is a posher area of a major UK city, although many more modest areas are the same. Whereas the large houses I see in many of your pictures have lawns open to the road, looking down this street, you'll see every house is walled off. I guess the British just prefer to mark their boundaries a bit more:

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Yes, our front lawns are open to the street for the most part. Some people will install a fence but it is usually no more that 3-4 feet tall.
 

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Depends a lot on the area, apparently. Took vacation in the Palm Springs/Palm Desert area. Seemed like everyone had a wall or fence. In my neck of the woods could count the number of fences or walls in the whole town on one hand.
 

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The police in the UK won't do squat if a car blocks your driveway, I know as it happened to a friend of mine and he had to wait until the person returned and moved their car.

There are supposed to be some rules such as if your car is blocked in so you can't get out then the police might help as opposed to be being blocked out but I'm not too sure. The police here are too busy catching the easy money targets i.e. the motorists with speeding fines.
 

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My rule is that any plumbing job requires a minimum of three trips to the hardware store.
Nah, you're wrong, it's at least 4 and usually 5 trips:
  1. Get the stuff you think you need
  2. Get the stuff you actually need and/or the extra stuff you find out you need
  3. Get the right size (or color) of the stuff you need
  4. Get replacements for stuff you broke trying to install it
  5. Return the stuff it turns out you didn't need after all
Where 2-4 can be repeated any number of times ;-)
 

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This is an interesting thread. Differences in culture, law, geography, etc., as well as what may simply be differences in terminology as well.

My main objection was the term "fine". To my experience, a fine is a criminal penalty, and thus could only be enacted by law and enforced by a government entity. Such a law would have to be duly created by proper procedures, and would need to be enforced under proper criminal procedures, due process, etc.

On the other hand, if these are not fines, but actually "fees" (in US terminology), then this would all be a civil matter, and subject to civil law.

In the end, the common practice in the US, of having violating cars towed and impounded by private towing companies ends up being similar in effect. And this practice is common, and accepted.

Here in the US, you can have a car towed if it is blocking your driveway because blocking a driveway is illegal. But if it's simply in front of your house, legally parked on a public road or street, then unless it's there for a long time and can be deemed to have been abandoned, that's not something you can prevent.

It's also interesting to read about price-shopping, fences, etc., being somewhat different between the US and UK.

Fun thread, everyone!
 

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You need to include trying to do the job with the tools you have, wasting hours before finally giving up and going out to buy the right tool(s) which then makes it a quick 10 minute job. :)
So true. I stopped borrowing tools from friends etc. when I found I needed them years ago, instead just buying them (except if they're really expensive and I'm confident I won't need it again in the next 10 years; typically that would be tools that no ordinary person has and are typically rented).
 

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Completely agree with you but the place is local to me so convenient, the next one is a few miles away.
Understandable, but write a letter to management (better yet, CEO at Corp HQ and copy local management) telling you are a long term shopper going elsewhere. Outline the whole drop-off petrol return issue. They may not even be aware of it. Question how many are doing the same but don’t have the courtesy to tell you.
 
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