Good deal Annke 180 degree dual 1/1.8 for $220?
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I have both the ncd800 and the fcd600. I had the ncd800 for a few years, it works fine, but has no IR, so the night image is only fair unless you have a lot of natural light. I didn't like the added white light on all night. So i just bought the fcd600 (for $80 at Walmart) and like it a LOT better than the way more expensive NCD800. Daytime image is very good on both, and I like the taller view (includes more top to bottom than the NCD800... width the same). But the night image, using IR, is way better and no white lights on all night.
I kind of agree. FCD600 may be substantially lower PPI (pixels per inch) but for an overview that doesn't matter too much anyway. The taller field of view kicks ass and the price is very attractive, costing less than most single sensor cameras I've bought before.
I bought FCD600 to test and I love it, except it is plastic and cannot find a juction for it :-(
I have two Annke NCD800’s in service and am happy with them.
I paid $235 and $200 respectively for them, bought at two different points in time from Annke.
Reading opinions and experience above with the FCD600, I am thinking of buying one.
Optically it seems similar to the NCD800, and having read many @wittaj and other posts including above am not going to dwell on fewer pixels.
I found three buying options:
6 MP Panoramic 180° Fixed Turret Network Camera
AN-I51DX0102-V1 @Walmart $77.98; Housing: Plastic, White color
4K Panoramic 180° Fixed Bullet Network Camera
AN-I91DX0102-V1 @Walmart $85.98; Housing: Metal&Plastic, White color
FCD600 - Panoramic Outdoor PoE Dual Lens Security Camera, 6MP Resolution, 180° Ultra Wide Angle, f/1.2 Super Aperture, BSI Sensor, Color Night Vision & Infrared Night Vision, Built-in Mic, Active Siren & Alarm, Human & Vehicle Detection - Turret
AN-I51DX0102-V1 @Annke $89.99; Housing: Metal&Plastic, White color
Other then Turret/Bullet, are these the same camera?
The minor apparent differences could just be typing/copy, and possibly not accurate descriptions.
The $77.98 @Walmart would be the best buy.
Also, for my NCD800 Turret I used this box.
Initially I was determined to use the "official" box, but everything I found would allow insects in, and I live in the woods.
Based on a nudge from @TonyR I tried this box, and it worked out well.
Also gave me more confidence for the future to be creative and improvise.
For the cable, I drilled a hole right at the edge of one side wall of the box, the one the gasket is NOT seated on.
Got a nice, snug cable fit, duly sealed per @TonyR specs.
On the flat box cover, I marked and drilled holes, and ran stainless steel machine bolts to mount the camera (sorry, no photos).
See photo of final install.
It's not a small box, but I think in the image it looks disproportionately large.
I paid $235 and $200 respectively for them, bought at two different points in time from Annke.
Reading opinions and experience above with the FCD600, I am thinking of buying one.
Optically it seems similar to the NCD800, and having read many @wittaj and other posts including above am not going to dwell on fewer pixels.
I found three buying options:
6 MP Panoramic 180° Fixed Turret Network Camera
AN-I51DX0102-V1 @Walmart $77.98; Housing: Plastic, White color
4K Panoramic 180° Fixed Bullet Network Camera
AN-I91DX0102-V1 @Walmart $85.98; Housing: Metal&Plastic, White color
FCD600 - Panoramic Outdoor PoE Dual Lens Security Camera, 6MP Resolution, 180° Ultra Wide Angle, f/1.2 Super Aperture, BSI Sensor, Color Night Vision & Infrared Night Vision, Built-in Mic, Active Siren & Alarm, Human & Vehicle Detection - Turret
AN-I51DX0102-V1 @Annke $89.99; Housing: Metal&Plastic, White color
Other then Turret/Bullet, are these the same camera?
The minor apparent differences could just be typing/copy, and possibly not accurate descriptions.
The $77.98 @Walmart would be the best buy.
Also, for my NCD800 Turret I used this box.
Initially I was determined to use the "official" box, but everything I found would allow insects in, and I live in the woods.
Based on a nudge from @TonyR I tried this box, and it worked out well.
Also gave me more confidence for the future to be creative and improvise.
For the cable, I drilled a hole right at the edge of one side wall of the box, the one the gasket is NOT seated on.
Got a nice, snug cable fit, duly sealed per @TonyR specs.
On the flat box cover, I marked and drilled holes, and ran stainless steel machine bolts to mount the camera (sorry, no photos).
See photo of final install.
It's not a small box, but I think in the image it looks disproportionately large.
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The FCD600 I bought directly from Annke is model
I51DX according to its web interface, so yes I think the $77.98 listing at walmart is the same camera. I've also found these cams are available a bit cheaper on ebay than on annke's own website. Similar to the walmart price.
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I noticed that these cameras are better priced on Aliexpress. Takes roughly a week to get to me but for the pricing, it was worth it. I paid $140 for two on the FCD600 8MP version. The FCD600 6MP version oddly was a few dollar more. The original FCD600's were all metal which I bought one of before they went to all plastic. They were selling those for like $99 back then. Saw the price drop to $79 and I picked it up but when it showed up to my door it turns out to be the all plastic version. I am in the process of converting mine to the metal housing. There seem to be slight differences between the all metal versus the all plastic versions.
Hi all,
I'm wanting to try the FCD600 camera again; I initially returned it because the turret version was huge and would not mount to my existing junction boxes.
Wondering if anyone has the bullet version? Can it be mounted under an overhang? The mount I see online leads me to believe no - it has to be mounted to a vertical wall:
I see that that the NCD800 has a mount which looks like it would mount horizontally under an overhang, this is the style of mount I believe I need:
Thanks!
I'm wanting to try the FCD600 camera again; I initially returned it because the turret version was huge and would not mount to my existing junction boxes.
Wondering if anyone has the bullet version? Can it be mounted under an overhang? The mount I see online leads me to believe no - it has to be mounted to a vertical wall:
I see that that the NCD800 has a mount which looks like it would mount horizontally under an overhang, this is the style of mount I believe I need:
Thanks!
I picked up the FCD600 bullet version but never installed it. I feel that this camera has a bad design. The camera is only able to mount one way that is considered to be correct. You are not able to mount it upside down. The design issue is the rubber cap on the mount. This rubber cap has a slit cut into it for sliding the camera harness/network cable through. This is bad as since this slit is facing up, water would get into the mount. Sure the argument could be said to just mount the camera upside down with rubber cap facing down and just rotate the image in software but I don't think the camera would work well as far as the illumination/active deterrence LED's in that configuration. There are screw holes on the top side of the camera but those seem to be for a hood/visor that doesn't come with the camera. There is not a way to remove the camera from the mount and remount it hanging from the top side.
Thanks, this is what I was looking for. I'll need to hang it from the top in some way. I am probably better off with the turret and looking for a mounting solution (junction box) which fits. I was unable to find one the last time. Thanks!
Are you mounting it to a soffit? If so then you can just mount the plate to the soffit, push all the wires back through the soffit and clip the camera to that mounting plate. I don't think a junction box for the FCD600 turret would be easy to find. Probably better off finding a universal junction box like the PFA130-E which has a cover on and tap your own holes to mount the plate.
My install had the network cables going to a single gang box in the wall so I just drilled a hole with a step bit to run the camera wire harness through into the single gang box. Then mounted the camera plate to the single gang wall plate, caulked and called it a day.
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I have the PFA130-E with a Dahua camera in the location currently. The FCD600 is BIG compared to the PFA130-E, and I don't think the holes line up on the cover at all.
Since the install is in a soffit, I may just do away with the junction box and cut out a shape matching the base of the FCD600 from a 1/2" piece of PVC trim to use as a mounting block. I'll leave the wire junction up in the soffit which should be reasonably well protected. I like to have a base for a little more rigidity than just having the mounting plate.
Thanks!
The holes definitely won't line up. Would need to drill new holes or use self taping screws to mount the plate to the junction box. That style of junction box with the cover would be what I would use. They make larger diameter ones if the PFA130-E is not wide enough.
Those who have the turret version of the FCD600 or similar: Do you find the range of adjustment of the angle of the camera is very limited without putting the wire in a tough bend? Trying to figure out if there is something I'm missing...
The only angle to really need for adjusting is the tilt (up/down). This camera has a 180 degree FOV so no need to move it left/right. Only time the wire is in a sharp bend would be if you have it mounted on ceiling or soffit with the camera push (tilted) all the way up. But in doing that half the image would be the sky or ceiling. Mostly likely will be tilting it down. Angling it down will also minimize the blind spot which is under the camera. Due to the amount that it is tilted down and how far off in the distance you are looking, the image may somewhat distort and so roads may appear to be more curved instead of straight. There is an option to adjust the distance for the field of view in the camera.
Thanks. Maybe I’m concerned about nothing. I’ll wait to see how much adjustment it needs when I get it installed. Thanks!
I have a technical question. Am considering the NCD800 turret version. Will mount it against a wall and preffer the turret as its less intimindating. I can't drill any holes in the wall so the POE cable will have to run from the edge of the turret base. Is their an inlet/outet notch for this? See the picture attached of a Dahua camera where there is an inlet/outlet notch for wiring?
