Also there are sooooo many cameras I am genuinely confused.
Like how does a 2MP Starlight turret cost more than a 4MP or even 8MP starlight ?
Like how does a 2MP Starlight turret cost more than a 4MP or even 8MP starlight ?
Has anyone ordered from "Dahua Franchise Store" on Aliexpress? Why are prices generally cheaper ?
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because most are hacked firmware china region cameras that cannot be firmware upgraded and use subpar sensors and not starlights at all and shipped slow method not dhl.
read the wiki and threads on cameras, the mp rating is the last thing to consider.
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Buy from Andy. Dont roll the dice on Ali Express.
If you could post a link, it'd be easier to tell. There are multiple series of 2MP Starlight models ... Ultra, Pro, Lite, etc. The Ultra models use a bigger 2MP 1/1.8" image sensor that cost more. Varifocal models also cost more. Is the vendor shipping via quick DHL or another method that may take literally one full month to arrive?
Ok for example. What is the difference and why are prices so varied? All claim non chinese version.
#Aliexpress C$ 154.74 16%OFF | original dahua International Version IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE 4MP IP Camera Built-in MIC WDR IR50M Eyeball AI Network Camera
#Aliexpress C$ 187.42 21%OFF | original dahua International Version IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE 4MP IP Camera Built-in MIC WDR IR50M Eyeball AI Network Camera
#Aliexpress C$ 214.37 6%OFF | 2019 New Arriving IP Camera IPC-T5442TM-AS 4MP Starlight+ WDR IR Eyeball AI Network Camera , free DHL shipping
There's many others. Prices fluctuate wildly. Andys store usually seems to have highest prices even though other sellers told me shipping is within 2 weeks and they are original / international / english versions.
#Aliexpress C$ 154.74 16%OFF | original dahua International Version IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE 4MP IP Camera Built-in MIC WDR IR50M Eyeball AI Network Camera
#Aliexpress C$ 187.42 21%OFF | original dahua International Version IPC-HDW5442TM-ASE 4MP IP Camera Built-in MIC WDR IR50M Eyeball AI Network Camera
#Aliexpress C$ 214.37 6%OFF | 2019 New Arriving IP Camera IPC-T5442TM-AS 4MP Starlight+ WDR IR Eyeball AI Network Camera , free DHL shipping
There's many others. Prices fluctuate wildly. Andys store usually seems to have highest prices even though other sellers told me shipping is within 2 weeks and they are original / international / english versions.
bigredfish
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Trust is something I factor into purchases from Amazon let alone China. I have grown to trust Andy.
your links all just go to the home page for me. try something like this? US $155.0 6% OFF|2019 New Arriving AI IP Camera IPC T5442TM AS LED 4MP Full color Starlight+ WDR Turret AI Network Camera, free DHL shipping|Surveillance Cameras| - AliExpress
those price diffs are most likley due to shipping...
those price diffs are most likley due to shipping...
Do a search here or on the internet with the words brick and camera and see what pops up...
Do a search here finding people that purchased cams from the cheaper places and find out that they do not work as intended.
Sometimes you do get what you pay for. Sometimes the cheap stuff works out and sometimes it is a big bust. A really big bust if the buyer has to pay for shipping for the returns.
My neighbor went that route first for a Dahua PTZ that was almost two hundred cheaper than from Andy's store. Got it and despite all the write-ups on the store, the cam software was all in Chinese. He got in contact with seller and they wanted him to download and install all these questionable programs, so he bit the bullet and paid to have it returned and bought from Andy.
Do a search here finding people that purchased cams from the cheaper places and find out that they do not work as intended.
Sometimes you do get what you pay for. Sometimes the cheap stuff works out and sometimes it is a big bust. A really big bust if the buyer has to pay for shipping for the returns.
My neighbor went that route first for a Dahua PTZ that was almost two hundred cheaper than from Andy's store. Got it and despite all the write-ups on the store, the cam software was all in Chinese. He got in contact with seller and they wanted him to download and install all these questionable programs, so he bit the bullet and paid to have it returned and bought from Andy.
So after reading the reviews and your footage, I think bang for the buck wise, 2431 probably cannot be beat? I'm really impressed by your youtube vids on it. Btw how many lumens are those lights on your vehicles? I think I'll order just 1 and play with it. Already working on improving lighting at night with motion flood led lights. If I'm not happy with it to watch cars, i can always move it by a door or side or backyard and get a 5442 or something to watch the cars.
Ok thanks for replies everyone. Ordering a budget friendly 2431 3.6mm to play with. If I'm happy then I'll get more. If not, I can use it on the sides/by doors and get a 5442 to watch the cars.
Was your neighbor tempted to learn to read Chinese? Haha. Im wondering if a translation browser plug in have worked to get him through the set up. I'm just thinking out loud, he did the right thing and ordered from Andy.
@Warptrooper I went the same route as you to a larger degree. 110 VAC floodlights at the 4 sides of my house. I went with:
LEPOWER 35w LED 100VAC security lights
Granted, I did not fear running 1/2" conduit, 3 strands of wire, and playing with my main house electrical box & fuses. Many folks speak highly of solar powered LED security lights as well.
In regards to whom to purchase from, as Fish above says...Andy has proven his worth to the people here on IPCT website (he has been here for....years? and has helped people out with tech/fixes). If he is $20 higher than someone I do not know on Ali Express, that's fine with me. But to each their own.
the 2431 is the "LITE" series. A good starter camera on a budget. But please remember, this is the beginner camera so do not compare it to the all mighty 5442's
LEPOWER 35w LED 100VAC security lights
Granted, I did not fear running 1/2" conduit, 3 strands of wire, and playing with my main house electrical box & fuses. Many folks speak highly of solar powered LED security lights as well.
In regards to whom to purchase from, as Fish above says...Andy has proven his worth to the people here on IPCT website (he has been here for....years? and has helped people out with tech/fixes). If he is $20 higher than someone I do not know on Ali Express, that's fine with me. But to each their own.
the 2431 is the "LITE" series. A good starter camera on a budget. But please remember, this is the beginner camera so do not compare it to the all mighty 5442's
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Stick with the cheapest one you can afford, to tinker with. I have 16 highly rated Dahua cams but it took over a year to get this far (still gots a LPR camera to go!). I started off with 4.
Play with the 2431. Your primary concern is keeping eye on the driveway. If you fired up that camera system you bought from Costco, I hope you kept/saved some images or videos. Would like to see the comparison between Costco camera system and the blue iris/dahua 2431's.
Later on, you can advance up the camera ladder in terms of quality of image, MP, Starlight+, multiple angles, high & low, etc. For now, play with that single camera and learn do's/don'ts of camera stuff. Gain knowledge. This camera stuff has some science to it
Play with the 2431. Your primary concern is keeping eye on the driveway. If you fired up that camera system you bought from Costco, I hope you kept/saved some images or videos. Would like to see the comparison between Costco camera system and the blue iris/dahua 2431's.
Later on, you can advance up the camera ladder in terms of quality of image, MP, Starlight+, multiple angles, high & low, etc. For now, play with that single camera and learn do's/don'ts of camera stuff. Gain knowledge. This camera stuff has some science to it
LOL - I told him the GUI is fairly similar across Dahua cams so I could probably figure it out, but he wanted to tinker with it too. But at the same time, I think it had cheaper components than the one he got from Andy. The picture quality was quite a difference.