Help with a hard wired outdoor camera system

Mrrr0809

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Hello all! I was referred here by another forum. I’ve done a lot of reading but sadly there is a mental block between me and everything IT/tech, so I appreciate the support and elementary explanations.

We built our home last year, and during the process, we had our electrician run (11) CAT 5 wires to a central location in the house. Now that we’re settles in, I’d like to purchase a system and get it up and running. I’m looking for (11) outdoor rated cameras- I’m thinking in the 5MP or better range and a 16 channel NVR which would leave a little rook to grow should I need it. I also need the capability of remote alerts and remote monitoring. Also, is a system such as this capable of being controlled and viewed (hardwired) through a television or must it go to a computer and monitor? I also need to explore the options and do some reading on a battery backup system in the event of a power failure. Thank you for your patience with me.
 
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Congratulations on having the foresight to run CAT5 in your home while building it. That will make your job much easier.

You're going to hear this from other people, but the best place to start are the IP Cam Talk Cliff Notes. Click on the Wiki link at the top of the page, then look for the Cliff Notes link on the left hand side of the page. Read those first.

My opinion is that the first choice you need to make is how you're going to control your cameras and record your video. Although modern NVRs are fairly capable, their interfaces leave much to be desired. The recommendation you're going to hear from most of the people here is to invest in a good PC or Mac, and run software like Blue Iris or SecuritySpy. Once you've settled on that, choosing the cameras will be fairly straightforward.
 

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^^^ What he said ^^^

:welcome:

You're already getting caught in the megapixel trap. Do not, repeat DO NOT, chase megapixels. The thing to chase is sensor size.

My standard welcome -

Start out by looking in the WiKi in the blue bar at the top of the page. There's a ton of very useful information in there and it needs to be viewed on a computer, not a phone or tablet. The Cliff Notes will be of particular interest although the camera models listed there are a generation old at this point. The best way to determine what kind of camera you need in each location and where each location should really be is to buy one varifocal camera first and set up a test stand for it that can be easily moved around. Test using that, viewing using the web interface of the camera, during the day and at night. Have someone walk around behaving like a miscreant and see if you can identify them. There is also information for choosing hardware and securing the system along with a whole bunch of other good stuff.

Don't chase megapixels unless you have a really BIG budget. General rule of thumb is that a 4MP camera will easily outperform an 8MP camera when they both have the same sensor size. Reason being that there are twice as many pixels in the 8MP versus the 4MP. This results in only half the available light getting to each pixel in an 8MP that a pixel in the 4MP "sees".

A dedicated PC doesn't need to be either expensive to purchase or to run. A used business class machine can be had from eBay and various other sources. The advances made in Blue Iris make it easily possible to run a fairly large system on relatively inexpensive hardware which also makes power consumption low, as in under 50 watts in many cases. The biggest expenses turn out to be hard drives for storing video and a PoE switch to power the cameras and, of course, the cameras themselves.

Three rules
Rule #1 - Cameras multiply like rabbits.
Rule #2 - Cameras are more addictive than drugs.
Rule #3 - You never have enough cameras.

Quick guide -

The smaller the lux number the better the low light performance. 0.002 is better than 0.02
The smaller the "F" of the lens the better the low light performance. F1.4 is better than F1.8
The larger the sensor the better the low light performance. 1/1.8" is better (bigger) than 1/2.7"
The higher the megapixels for the same size sensor the worse the low light performance. A 4MP camera with a 1/1.8" sensor will perform better than a 8MP camera with that same 1/1.8" sensor.

Don't believe all the marketing hype no matter who makes the camera. Don't believe those nice night time captures they all use. Look for videos, with motion, to determine low light performance. Don't believe all the marketing hype no matter who makes the camera. Don't believe those nice night time captures they all use. Look for videos, with motion, to determine low light performance. Rule of thumb, the shutter speed needs to be at 1/60 or higher to get night video without blurring.

Read the reviews here, most include both still shots and video.

Rule of thumb, the shutter speed needs to be at 1/60 or higher to get night video without blurring.

The 5442 series of cameras by Dahua is the current "king of the hill". They are 4MP and capable of color with some ambient light at night. The 2231 series is a less expensive alternative in 2MP and does not have audio capabilities, no built in microphone, but is easier on the budget. The 3241T-ZAS has similar spcs as the 2231 and has audio. There are also cameras available from the IPCT Store right here on the forum and from Nelly's Security who has a thread in the vendors section.

5442 Reviews

Review - Loryata (Dahua OEM) IPC-T5442T-ZE varifocal Turret

Review - OEM IPC-B5442E-ZE 4MP AI Varifocal Bullet Camera With Starlight+

Review-OEM 4mp AI Cam IPC-T5442TM-AS Starlight+ Turret

Review IPC-T5442TM-AS-LED (Turret, Full Color, Starlight+)

Review: IPC-HDBW5442R-ASE-NI - Dahua Technology Pro AI Bullet Network Camera

2231 Review
Review-OEM IPC-T2231RP-ZS 2mp Varifocal Turret Starlight Camera

3241T-ZAS Review

Less expensive models -

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Good idea to install cables right away.
If you still missing one cable when you mount multiple cams at one corner, buy a "POE splitter/externder" as the Chinese call them.
I have 3 around my house ;-)
 

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Thanks for the above information all. Certainly going to spend some more time reading the wiki these next few days. I also appreciate the camera recommendation. It’s nice to have a starting point and an item to compare others.

Is there a source that’s preferred for buying from? It seems like Nellys Security doesn’t carry Dahua unless I’m searching wrong. I’ve also have heard good personal testimony of Hikvision which they don’t seem to carry either.
 
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Thanks for the above information all. Certainly going to spend some more time reading the wiki these next few days. I also appreciate the camera recommendation. It’s nice to have a starting point and an item to compare others.

Is there a source that’s preferred for buying from? It seems like Nellys Security doesn’t carry Dahua unless I’m searching wrong. I’ve also have heard good personal testimony of Hikvision which they don’t seem to carry either.
If you want to buy Dahua cameras, send a message to @EMPIRETECANDY. Andy has provided cameras for many of us. Good prices, fast shipping, and he stands behind his product.

For Hikvision cameras, look no further than the STORE link at the top of this page.
 
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