KB homes "KB Secure, Camera Prewire" fails to run cables to appropriate locations on new home construction in Las Vegas.

[mat200]

KB homes "KB Secure, Camera Prewire" fails to run cables to appropriate locations on new home construction in Las Vegas.

IPCT member Vg247 encountered the following issue:

KB Homes sold an option to pre wire for "KB Secure, Camera Prewire" for $145 per location ( one cat5e/6, one coax cable, no power )
New homeowner / purchaser selected the locations based on "floor plan" - KB Homes chose the height.
KB Homes installed the locations ~20 feet high.
Completely incorrect height location for security camera purposes imho as there is no way you can get a good angle for a facial ID to anyone near the home. ( suspect would need to look up directly at the camera AND you would need a camera that has a narrow enough FOV to get 100+ ppf to the suspects face. )

Here we recommend using 100+ ppf for ID purposes to get enough pixels on a potential facial ID. Also to get a good angle for a facial ID we recommend mounting cameras 6-8 feet high for cameras which are to get images of suspects near the house.

20 feet high only really works for cases when you have greater magnification on the cameras for subjects further away from the camera so that you can get a good angle for a facial ID.

In this case those mounting locations really are only good for scenic cameras not security cameras.

Looking for References for a reputable security camera installation shop in the Las Vegas area for my new construction home.

It is already pre wired for 9 POE cameras, so I’m looking for someone to install the cameras and set up the NVR etc.
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I guest high is more subjective to me, but the camera mounts are all approximately 20ft high, since I reach them using a 22ft ladder.

..They ran the cable home runs into my designated room, and the smart box or data box has a bunch of cables in there for cable tv, phone, etc...

The home has already been 100% completed. It’s not a custom home so during the option selections - buyers can only choose camera pre wires, and at which locations.

We did not get to pick how high up or specify anything other parameters. KB Home is the builder.

On the option list it only reads:
Low Voltage
KB Secure, Camera Prewire
Includes data and coax for camera, doesn't include 110v outlet. Equipment not included. $145.00 for each camera pre wire
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Ref:
Reputable Security Cam installers in the Las Vegas area?

 

[mat200]

Advice:

Stay on top of home builders. They often are not doing the best job based on our expectations, and will take short cuts at your expense.

 

[bp2008]

Haha a coax cable without power. And in 2019. Hahahahahahahahaha

 

[fenderman]

Haha a coax cable without power. And in 2019. Hahahahahahahahaha

The logic likely was that if coax was used for the video, the cat can be used for power.

 

[looney2ns]

Advice:

Stay on top of home builders. They often are not doing the best job based on our expectations, and will take short cuts at your expense.

Rarely do they do things correctly. It's buyer beware in the new house market. Most trades are struggling to hire competent folks. The builder may have the best intentions in the world, but he has employees and sub contractors that can be sketchy to say the least.
As I've told many folks, if building a new house, you better know the jest of the ins and outs of the process, and visit the site daily with blueprints in hand to check things out. Like the high cable mounting, could have been caught and corrected prior to sheet rock.

 

[VorlonFrog]

Rarely do they do things correctly. It's buyer beware in the new house market. Most trades are struggling to hire competent folks. The builder may have the best intentions in the world, but he has employees and sub contractors that can be sketchy to say the least.
As I've told many folks, if building a new house, you better know the jest of the ins and outs of the process, and visit the site daily with blueprints in hand to check things out. Like the high cable mounting, could have been caught and corrected prior to sheet rock.

When you're not around, sub-contractors do whatever they please. When you mention something, contractors will use "building code" to defend their incompetence. Hire a professional contractor, and watch/review them daily, as looney2ns advises. If I had not done this when remodeling many years ago, things would not be nearly as reliable as they are today. When the contractor was ready to turn things back over, he asked me to prepare a punchlist of things to do that required finishing up the job. I handed him a three-page typewritten list on the spot, and the look on his face was priceless.