Looking for recommendations, simple, TV option, modest price

Mighty

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I'm sure you guys get this all the time, but I didn't see any of these threads in the first few pages of this forum. I've just started researching this, so I'm not sure if what I want is available for a reasonable price.

I'm looking to set up a video system for the exterior of my mother's house. Therefore, it needs to be pretty simple for her to operate when she needs to.

Here's what I've come up with, so far. I need eight cameras to cover all the doors and windows without any blind spots where the cameras could be disabled. I think I want 1080 resolution, though I could be talked into 720 for some of the cameras. One thing I know I want is at least 90 degree FOV for most of the cameras. Otherwise I'd need another camera or two to cover blind spots. The side of the house could be covered by a couple of more narrow views. I think I want both local recording and cloud storage. I think I'd prefer wired and POE vs Wi-Fi and having to run a wire for power, anyway.

One feature I'm finding difficult to fill is easy viewing on the TV controlled by the remote. (She has an older Logitech Harmony, so I can teach it commands.) I might be talked into a dedicated display, but I would greatly prefer giving her a way to quickly switch to it on the TV.

One idea that comes to mind is sticking a Raspberry Pi in the cabinet that can access the system and display it on the TV. The only hard part is finding the right software to control with a TV remote. She's not going to keep a mouse and keyboard by her chair in the living room.

She has Frontier for her Internet, so 40 Mbps up. That should be plenty to stream to a cloud service and real time viewing.

Nice to have future additions might be an extra PTZ camera or two. And, maybe one camera dedicated to license plate recognition. She's in a good neighborhood, but there's a parking lot across from her driveway that has been a gathering place for some unsavory characters.

My budget is $750-1000 plus $100ish/yr for cloud storage. Less is better, of course :-) I've seen some systems on Amazon that come kinda close to what I'm looking for, except for the TV display, in the $650 range.

Again, simple is a pretty important feature. She's pretty sharp, but this is not something I expect her to use every day. So, it needs to be something that she doesn't need a tutorial on each time. I'm okay with more complicated for the remote viewing options. But, those are pretty straightforward, these days.

All suggestions appreciated,
Drake Christensen
 
I'm sure you guys get this all the time, but I didn't see any of these threads in the first few pages of this forum. I've just started researching this, so I'm not sure if what I want is available for a reasonable price.

I'm looking to set up a video system for the exterior of my mother's house. Therefore, it needs to be pretty simple for her to operate when she needs to.

Here's what I've come up with, so far. I need eight cameras to cover all the doors and windows without any blind spots where the cameras could be disabled. I think I want 1080 resolution, though I could be talked into 720 for some of the cameras. One thing I know I want is at least 90 degree FOV for most of the cameras. Otherwise I'd need another camera or two to cover blind spots. The side of the house could be covered by a couple of more narrow views. I think I want both local recording and cloud storage. I think I'd prefer wired and POE vs Wi-Fi and having to run a wire for power, anyway.

One feature I'm finding difficult to fill is easy viewing on the TV controlled by the remote. (She has an older Logitech Harmony, so I can teach it commands.) I might be talked into a dedicated display, but I would greatly prefer giving her a way to quickly switch to it on the TV.

One idea that comes to mind is sticking a Raspberry Pi in the cabinet that can access the system and display it on the TV. The only hard part is finding the right software to control with a TV remote. She's not going to keep a mouse and keyboard by her chair in the living room.

She has Frontier for her Internet, so 40 Mbps up. That should be plenty to stream to a cloud service and real time viewing.

Nice to have future additions might be an extra PTZ camera or two. And, maybe one camera dedicated to license plate recognition. She's in a good neighborhood, but there's a parking lot across from her driveway that has been a gathering place for some unsavory characters.

My budget is $750-1000 plus $100ish/yr for cloud storage. Less is better, of course :) I've seen some systems on Amazon that come kinda close to what I'm looking for, except for the TV display, in the $650 range.

Again, simple is a pretty important feature. She's pretty sharp, but this is not something I expect her to use every day. So, it needs to be something that she doesn't need a tutorial on each time. I'm okay with more complicated for the remote viewing options. But, those are pretty straightforward, these days.

All suggestions appreciated,
Drake Christensen


Welcome Drake,

Do not go for 720p cameras - they are obsolete. 1080p should be the minimum.

Highly recommend you do take a look at #20 in my notes, and follow those links and use that as the base from which you compare your options.

It's easy to get swamped with information here, so I wanted to share some notes with you

Please check out @giomania 's notes:
Dahua Starlight Varifocal Turret (IPC-HDW5231R-Z)

I have also made notes which are a summary of a lot of the reading I've been doing here,:
Looking for some advice and direction!

Have fun joining us here.
 
An $80.00 Kindle Fire or two and TinyCamPro can serve easily as a monitor. Keep it simple, no TV needed.

Use this to determine your views: IPVM Camera Calculator V3 Keeping PPF>100, tutorial on right.

You want to know who did it, not just what happened.

Cameras are only part of the puzzle, does she have a good alarm system? Does she actually use it?
Have door's and windows been hardened/re-enforced.
Most doors don't take much effort to kick in, if they've not been re-enforced.

WiFi is bad for cams.

Stay away from the gimmicky cloud stuff.
 
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An $80.00 Kindle Fire or two and TinyCamPro can serve easily as a monitor. Keep it simple, no TV needed.

Use this to determine your views: IPVM Camera Calculator V3 Keeping PPF>100, tutorial on right.

You want to know who did it, not just what happened.

Cameras are only part of the puzzle, does she have a good alarm system? Does she actually use it?
Have door's and windows been hardened/re-enforced.
Most doors don't take much effort to kick in, if they've not been re-enforced.

WiFi is bad for cams.

Stay away from the gimmicky cloud stuff.

Great point, definitely look at re-enforcing that front door - I've seen a lot of videos where burglars and invaders kick the front door open.
 
loony2ns, What are some not-gimmicky cloud solutions? And, which do you specifically suggest I avoid? What should I be looking out for? Is there a recent thread that compares some of them?

The Kindle is an intriguing idea. The problem is that her little table by her chair is already beyond capacity with the TV remote, her drink, etc. And, she rearranges regularly, so she'd have to find a new spot for it every time. And, of course, it needs a power cord.

Hmm. Maybe I can find a pouch or something not-unsightly she's willing to use to hang the Kindle off the side of the chair. Anyone know of anything that would fit a southern France decorating style? :-)

mat200 thanks for the links. Obviously a huge amount of information to digest. I'm finding it tough to look up models for aesthetics, FOV, low light performance, pricing, etc. A lot of them have already been discontinued. And similar naming seems to apply to very different products.

I haven't even had a chance to really dig into the NVRs, yet.

I thought I had given myself enough time to research this to make it a Christmas gift. Now, I'm not so sure :-)
 
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I thought I had given myself enough time to research this to make it a Christmas gift. Now, I'm not so sure :)

Hi Mighty,

You can! Indeed a lot to learn, just start with my notes and use them as a reference. Especially look at the links in #20 and use them to compare your options.