So far I can't see if mine has the 2.0 or not, I guess we will find out. I'm not too concerned either way
Hopefully sooner or later someone figures out a way around it
Hopefully sooner or later someone figures out a way around it
Natural Gas Generators
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Had read that thread when it was actively being discussed which doesn't really surprise me in the least. Generac has been pulling these stunts for years along with other anti DIY policies and tactics.
The problem for many customers is Generac is almost always the biggest player in town with a presence. That being the case the average consumer is going to purchase what is available & supported in their local market.This assumes you ever receive a call back from any of these so called reputable companies!
The one thing with most Costco stores that sell Generac / Honeywell is you have the backing of Costco and more often than not the vendor they have selected to represent and sell Generac hardware are decent. As of stated by one member in the Zeller forum at the end of the day you just need the Generator to do two things:
- Start up during a grid down event
- Operate reliably while supplying clean power
The rest is just gravy and there are lots of solutions to monitor power input / output.
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Actually there was a gas shortage. ERCOT turned off power to the Permian Basin which is a large source of natural gas.
If you want reliability propane may be the better choice. During hurricanes I have read about homes losing natural gas. Propane could be vulnerable too but if the tank is buried or at least protected it could lead to improved self sufficiency.
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So far I can't see if mine has the 2.0 or not, I guess we will find out. I'm not too concerned either way
Hopefully sooner or later someone figures out a way around it
I read up on the encryption a little more and Generac stated the liquid cooled units are not going to be encrypted at this time. So hopefully they don't change that in the future.
While I agree with that statement, a generator is an investment that will cost anywhere from $8,000-$10,000+ to install. If I'm going to spend that kind of money on a generator I'm not going to settle for something that doesn't do everything I want it to do just because that's what everyone else uses. Especially when that company has a subpar remote management app. Plus their charging you for it monthly, and purposefully changed the software to lockout 3rd party services.
100% agree!
That’s why I’m a strong proponent of right to repair.
If I buy something it’s mine and don’t want someone telling me using a free third party application isn’t allowed!Like you, if I’m going to pay you some bull shit fee to access & manage the generator it better well work! It never ceases to amaze me how companies that rake in billions of dollars always offer shit software?!?
I posted some of this in the Solar thread, but first hurdle done. Meter is now right next to where the Generator will go, which saves me $1500
Generator will go where the hose reel is.
Used to be like this before, cable went way over the driveway (and look at that mess!)
Now nice and neat, on the garage
200a sub on the house
All the crap on the side gone
Generator will go where the hose reel is.
Used to be like this before, cable went way over the driveway (and look at that mess!)
Now nice and neat, on the garage
200a sub on the house
All the crap on the side gone
AP514
Pulling my weight
Good to see you are getting what you want ? The freeze really did a number on a ton of Texans. (well actually our Power Grid)
I went the other Route and installed a manual transfer switch to run 8 circuits. Lucky me I had just purchased a 30 gal. fuel Drum and Pump a few weeks before.
House made it threw the freeze just Fine..Put 34 hours on the generator.... A few pics
I went the other Route and installed a manual transfer switch to run 8 circuits. Lucky me I had just purchased a 30 gal. fuel Drum and Pump a few weeks before.
House made it threw the freeze just Fine..Put 34 hours on the generator.... A few pics
SouthernYankee
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Very interesting. What kind of fuel is that? Just gasoline?
Nice ELEY Hose reel!!!!
Nice ELEY Hose reel!!!!
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The manual switches are cheap. You can get them at Home Depot. I've put a a few in for buddies over the years. Plug in the genny and hit the bypass/transfer switch. Bam! Power to the house again. Just make sure you turn off your A/C/Hotwater Heater, etc... breakers before you throw the transfer switch when using those portable generators.
The manual switches are cheap. You can get them at Home Depot. I've put a a few in for buddies over the years. Plug in the genny and hit the bypass/transfer switch. Bam! Power to the house again. Just make sure you turn off your A/C/Hotwater Heater, etc... breakers before you throw the transfer switch when using those portable generators.
@IReallyLikePizza2 I have the latest generac 22kw 2.0. I have genmon working without issue. I even have it integrated with Home Assistant.
AP514
Pulling my weight
the Tank sits in the Garage (58' x 30')
Do not know for sure..started off with 28 Gal..maybe used 14 Gal. not sure gen. tank still has gas in it and 30 gal. tank at about 2/3 full still
relignt R308A...$350..they stopped making them right after I Purchased mine..it is the exact same thing as the R310A(mine has 8 C/B instead of 10)
Steel drum is CQ3008L....Amazon.com: Skolnik 30 Gallon Closed Head Carbon Steel Drum with Epoxy Phenolic Lining, CQ3008L: Home Improvement ($140 free delivery- price went up i see) The L is for lined can store fuel long term in a lined drum compared to a transport drum.
Fili-Rite Pump $67 open box- Ebay
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AP514
Pulling my weight
Yup just gasoline..
I have two Eley Reels and 150' hoses..best money ever spent
From what I read, the encryption is enabled on a newer firmware update for Generators running the Evolution 2.0 controllers. So it's possible you're running a firmware version prior to the encryption. Unless something has changed, if you update your firmware, GenMon might stop working. I also read if you bought your generator prior to the new encrypted firmware, you can always downgrade firmware versions after it is installed. However, if the generator was purchased with the encrypted firmware already installed it is not possible to downgrade to an older firmware without encryption.
The encryption was worked around and no longer an issue.
FIXED: Generac will begin encrypting evolution 2.0 controllers starting with firmware 1.10. Will this block genmon use on Evolution 2. Also all new evolution 2 generators will be shipped with encrypted controllers. · Issue #374 · jgyates/genmon
Use the template below if you have an issue or want to report a bug. If you have a question or a feature request you can ignore the questions below. NOTE: If you are having issues with your serial ...
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Had a bad wind storm ahead of a front tonight and lost power. Power company saying at least 6 hours down time so I broke out the Generac 8000/10,000, Last time I started it was December. It fired right up and with the transfer switch was up and running in 10 minutes. Yes!
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lost power earlier in the week for 2 1/2 hours. It went out around 1 am. The 14kw Kohler automatically started up and transferred power to generator within 10 seconds. I didn’t even have to get out of bed!
We lost power for 10 minutes, my neighbors generator kicked on and gave him power... I was stuck wondering when the power will come back on
I did get a call from the installer stating they are drawing up install plans, so its making some progress at least
I did get a call from the installer stating they are drawing up install plans, so its making some progress at least
Wow that piece of plywood hides that generator so well...no perp will know where to find it
(I am sure you have it there for noise abatement or keep rain off it)But looks like it is nice of you to run some power to your neighbor as well.