Neighbor wants what I have but that's not going to happen.

[Left Coast Geek]

Yep, but that is what happens to most Average Joe's lol. None of my neighbors regularly look at their NVRs at any frequency LOL.

hah. mine sits on the right edge of my desk, and is connected to a dedicated 24" wall mount monitor, right next to the dual screens on my main PC workstation. ok, the miniPC now lives where those old HK speakers were temporarily. that wall mount monitor has HDMI audio

 

[Arjun]

24/7 no exceptions

 

[Arjun]

Definitely get a dedicated monitor, who wants to switch screens That's where an ultra wide screen monitor and Blue Iris comes handy.

 

[tigerwillow1]

I see that different people are having different reliability experience with NVRs. As one data point, my 5216-4kS2 has been running 24x7 for 4-1/2 years with no failures. During that time it did reboot itself once for an unknown to me reason. I use smartPss for routine viewing and find it much faster and easier than viewing from the NVR. The only big PITA I have is with saving video clips.

 

[Holbs]

Other than the NVR itself (for this example a Dahua NVR), I can easily slap in the IPC 5442 varifocals identical to what I am currently using for myself? Or does a NVR use different NVR form of camera? I know there are the stripped down versions from the 5442's that I use (no idea what is stripped out of them). Sadly, some wireless cameras might be needed as well. Does Dahua even make wireless cams? I've never seen any review here on IPCT. Folks have mentioned IMOU's. Or other brand of wireless cameras. Wouldn't mind sticking with a Dahua wireless camera if using a NVR. Same for Armcrest cams if going Armcrest NVR.

 

[wittaj]

Whether you go with Amcrest, Lorex, or Dahua, they are all Dahua OEM and for the most part will work without an issue with each other.

My neighbor with his expensive $1,300 4k Lorex kit replaced two of his cams with 2MP like I run after seeing how superior they were at night.

We simply unscrewed the old camera, disconnected, connected the new one and screwed it back on and by the time we got into his house, the NVR had already found them and was showing the feed.

One of them was for LPR, so I set up all the parameter at my house as a baseline to get it started, and they all remained intact when it came in on the NVR. Except he keeps forgetting it is an all black image at night and starts zooming in and out and then focus is shot until the next day

Now he has two cameras he can't do anything with LOL as he has an 8 channel NVR and all 8 slots are filled....I told him if he had BI he could repurpose those to another area of the house LOL.

 

[SpacemanSpiff]

Other than the NVR itself (for this example a Dahua NVR), I can easily slap in the IPC 5442 varifocals identical to what I am currently using for myself? Or does a NVR use different NVR form of camera? I know there are the stripped down versions from the 5442's that I use (no idea what is stripped out of them). Sadly, some wireless cameras might be needed as well. Does Dahua even make wireless cams? I've never seen any review here on IPCT. Folks have mentioned IMOU's. Or other brand of wireless cameras. Wouldn't mind sticking with a Dahua wireless camera if using a NVR. Same for Armcrest cams if going Armcrest NVR.

Recently installed a NVR5216-16P-4KS2E with a HFW5241E-Z12E and three from the T5442 family of cams (thanks Andy!). Cannot speak (yet) to the experience as it is my first ever NVR, however I am and getting things dialed-in as time allows (thanks IPCT!). Chose an NVR over BI as it is the best "fit" (figurative) at the location and it best suits the end user. Simplicity overall -- operation, access, etc

/$0.02

 

[Flintstone61]

dude you're on mIRC! Wow.

 

[Flintstone61]

is there an ip cam chan?

 

[tigerwillow1]

2-cents opinion: If you use a dahua nvr, ignore ONVIF because you lose too many camera features with it. Use only dahua cameras, or ones that use the dahua private protocol.

 

[Holbs]

dude you're on mIRC! Wow.

mIRC. You old timer I think nowadays, folks have migrated over to...um....er....Discord

 

[Left Coast Geek]

mIRC. You old timer I think nowadays, folks have migrated over to...um....er....Discord

I mostly lurk in a couple sql database channels, pfsense, and freenas aka truenas.

 

[CCTVCam]

In my opinion that is comparing apples vs oranges...

- new NVR vs. 10 years old "refurbished" (someone took a cloth and wipe over) PC
Who knows what happen to this guy in early life? Power supply maybe has swollen/leaking caps, some of these pre-lease machines (SFF) have proprietary power supplies and motherboards, maybe you will find a "reburbished" one on ebay if it fail. but go to a computer store and get parts? lol no.. (this is also true for nvr, but in my opinion the chance that a brand new unused nvr will fail is smaller)

That's why I'm more inclined to build. Expensive yes, although in some jurisdictions such as the UK where 2nd hand are rips offs, not so much so. However, you know what you're getting. No getting a pc that was used twice but really ran continuosuly for 4 years before sale. No pc's with problems, illegal content. No failing components that can't be reaplced because they're proprietory and unique. Building is expensive, but when it gets tired an old, you can swap a psu or failing ram, or drive, or maybe a MB and CPU. There's no need to junk the whole thing for something else of unknown origin, condition or use. There's also no compromises, OEM's cut corners to save costs. Apart from stirpped down unique parts, you often get cheap cables, fans, heatsinks, case and a whole host of other minor items that could affect either the speed or thermal performance of your system. A self built means a £2 cheap chinese fan becomes a £6 noctua. Not a lot of difference in price, but performance. A £0.50 cable becomes a £5 Belkin etc. Self building gives total quality control. You might spend an extra £20-30 on the little things, but sometimes it makes all the difference.

 

[user8963]

the UK

the UK is the shithole of used junk hardware...

US is special... DELL / HP / LENOVO gives companies/universities huge discounts, so they need 500 new pcs, but its cheaper to buy 1000... so they buy 1000 and give 500 to reseller...
there are many "non-warranty" greymarket brandnew dell devices on ebay... no one really knows where these devices come from, but they are really cheap.

Just look at this device

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I have 3 of them, ... with m2 sata ssd they are good for any office (word, browser) use, better than any raspberry pi shit... 35 USD ?! lol... WITH KEYBOARD and MOUSE
usb-c, usb 3.0 ... what you need more ?

j4105 supports even quicksync

 

[CCTVCam]

Yeah we get ripped off.

US - something overpriced, no one buys it. Forces the prices down.

UK - something overpriced, everyone buys it to show off how wealthy they are and because even those that don't have money take the attitude if you don't buy it you miss out. No-one seems to relaise or care if no-one bought it the price would come down. Over here buying something expensive is like a badge of honour. YOu boght something for twice the price of your neighbour, you don't hide in shame, you show off about it.

 

[nelgnl]

Yeah we get ripped off.

US - something overpriced, no one buys it. Forces the prices down.

UK - something overpriced, everyone buys it to show off how wealthy they are and because even those that don't have money take the attitude if you don't buy it you miss out. No-one seems to relaise or care if no-one bought it the price would come down. Over here buying something expensive is like a badge of honour. YOu boght something for twice the price of your neighbour, you don't hide in shame, you show off about it.

Folks from IPCT: buying directly from Andy, having the cheapest price possible.

Also folks from IPCT: buying even more camera's then needed, because it is so cheap

 

[Left Coast Geek]

I have a swiss pc.engines APU2D4 quad core 4GB ram cpu board I use as a router, has 3 intel gigE ports (but no PoE), and draw like 7 watts. I wonder if with poe switches, you could turn this into a NVR. oh yeah, no video, I guess it would only run a linux/unix NVR. meh. its a quad core 1Ghz x86_64 and actually pretty powerful. its awesome at pfsense and routing near gigabit ...

 

[GBJames]

My next door neighbor is becoming more aware of vehicle crime increasing in the neighborhood and wants to upgrade his 2 cameras: Ring doorbell and wireless above garage door.
I showed him my setup (Dahua 5442's, 5231's etc) with Blue Iris. He likey.
However, I would not be too keen on explaining to him my setup as it's way down the DIY rabbit hole. So an NVR package would more suitable. Something like set it and forget it.
I know Dahua cameras, but no other brands such as Hikvision or Axxis. I know local contractors who go all in on Hikvision. I know Home Depot & Lowe's (big named corporations) go with Axxis...so I would feel more comfortable telling him to buy a Dahua NVR package.
I've never purchased a NVR package kit. What cameras come with these? Are wireless cameras also an option?
And since it's not a Blue Iris machine...how does the Dahua NVR setup & GUI work? AOK?

I have a similar neighbor although he's even less tech-savvy than yours. The last thing I want is to become his tech support guy. Good luck!

 

[bradner]

Recently installed a NVR5216-16P-4KS2E with a HFW5241E-Z12E and three from the T5442 family of cams (thanks Andy!). Cannot speak (yet) to the experience as it is my first ever NVR, however I am and getting things dialed-in as time allows (thanks IPCT!). Chose an NVR over BI as it is the best "fit" (figurative) at the location and it best suits the end user. Simplicity overall -- operation, access, etc

/$0.02

I'm in the same boat as OP, needing to "help" a friend get a security system set up but he's not tech savy. I learnt allot in this thread - thanks.

My one question is remote viewing of the cameras. I'm spoiled by UI3 and using Fire TV's. Are there similar options with using a Dahua NVR for him? Could he have a smart TV in his shop and see the cams like I see mine using BI's UI3? Thanks.

 

[wittaj]

You can login in to the NVR gui from a web browser, so as long as his smart tv has browser capabilities, he could do something similar.