New system build, whats ideal in 2023?

[mikeduncan]

I have an old system from 2015 running BI which is honestly one of the last systems I built. I have a pretty open budget for my next system and want to be able to run around 50 cameras of mixed resolutions. I also want to take advantage of any AI that is available. Of course I want all the acceleration I can get that isn't just insanely priced. Is there a guide or suggested system builds thread? I am looking at this one currently, would this and a video card that has cuda support be just the thing?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09ZLVJBDZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2L5GKX31VOMVD&psc=1

 

[fenderman]

I have an old system from 2015 running BI which is honestly one of the last systems I built. I have a pretty open budget for my next system and want to be able to run around 50 cameras of mixed resolutions. I also want to take advantage of any AI that is available. Of course I want all the acceleration I can get that isn't just insanely priced. Is there a guide or suggested system builds thread? I am looking at this one currently, would this and a video card that has cuda support be just the thing?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09ZLVJBDZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2L5GKX31VOMVD&psc=1

That is a major ripoff...That system is worth 150 or less.
the number of cams is irrelevant. Its megapixels per second. See wiki.
If you intend to run AI on a bunch of cams this will not be sufficient.

 

[mikeduncan]

Ok I will look at the wiki again, I did look before searching amazon and just popped in i7 8700 refurbished on amazon since the wiki said buy refurbished and had i7 8700 at the very top of suggested models

 

[whoami ™]

I personally like how the SFF HP Elitedesk 800 G6 looks, being all blacked out. I've seen some OK deals on eBay for the i5 variant. It has 2x 3.5" drive bays which for me is mandatory and can hold alot of memory.

 

[fenderman]

Ok I will look at the wiki again, I did look before searching amazon and just popped in i7 8700 refurbished on amazon since the wiki said buy refurbished and had i7 8700 at the very top of suggested models

The eighth gen was suggested because it was cheap an fairly new a few years ago. There are huge leaps in performance on the newer systems. It all depends on your needs and load. For that price you can buy an i5-12500 which is more than double as powerful as the i7-8700. You also need to think about available internal storage for a system with 50 cams.

 

[mikeduncan]

Best suggestion in the 1000 or so range would be great for me, I am purchasing this for my workplace and really don't want to have to become an expert in current hardware to pick something but I don't want to waste money that can be used for other things like new cameras either. I'm going to be using this system for a long time so I don't have to necessarily go with the cheapest option or anything. I just don't want to run into any bottlenecks or inability to take advantage of AI

 

[mikeduncan]

The eighth gen was suggested because it was cheap an fairly new a few years ago. There are huge leaps in performance on the newer systems. It all depends on your needs and load. For that price you can buy an i5-12500 which is more than double as powerful as the i7-8700. You also need to think about available internal storage for a system with 50 cams.

Ok I see, for storage I figured I would buy some wd purple drives and install them in whatever I ended up with. Space is not a factor, I have plenty of room for a regular tower here

 

[fenderman]

Ok I see, for storage I figured I would buy some wd purple drives and install them in whatever I ended up with. Space is not a factor, I have plenty of room for a regular tower here

You need to consider the available hard drive space in the tower

 

[Mike A.]

^ This. The Dell Optiplex towers have plenty of space. But with all of that space there's still only 1 spot for a 3.5" drive. You can stick another one in there somewhere but it doesn't come ready for it.

 

[mat200]

I have an old system from 2015 running BI which is honestly one of the last systems I built. I have a pretty open budget for my next system and want to be able to run around 50 cameras of mixed resolutions. I also want to take advantage of any AI that is available. Of course I want all the acceleration I can get that isn't just insanely priced. Is there a guide or suggested system builds thread? I am looking at this one currently, would this and a video card that has cuda support be just the thing?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09ZLVJBDZ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2L5GKX31VOMVD&psc=1

Posting this for future reference ..



Note, Dell Refurbished currently running a 50% deal .. stock comes in and out so you need to watch for a similar i7-8700 to compare with ..



closest they currently have .. thus $225 with 50% off .. cosmetic grade "B"

 

[Flintstone61]

If you want to employ 2-3 Spinning HDD's to those 50 cams, the Dell Precision in this generation has plenty of bays. ( see link) I have the 3630, with 2 8TB drives in it,,,,only using 1 for video storage. other is just for backups and folders. But the 3630 may not be able to support the next Gen Intel chips, so I searched around to see what model #'s have newer Generation Intel chip, and found this. Kind of a compromise because thier i5- 2500 Precision Tower looks to drop the 3rd spinner bay in the photos I've seen.AND jumps up into the $1200 -$2000 range or higher.

Dell Precision 3650 i7-11700 2.50GHz 8 core 16GB Ram 512GB NVMe SSD Nvidia P1000 | eBay

NVidia P1000 4GB - Dedicated Graphics Card. Dell Precision 3650 Tower PC/Workstation. Dell Power Cord. Condition :Desktop has been fully tested. This unit contains scratches and scuffs that are consistent with normal use.

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[Flintstone61]

Heres a 3630 with a Core i9 8 core 16 thread chip. which compared to the i5-12500 which is a 6core 6 thread chip.

DELL Precision 3630 8 Core i9-9900K 3.60 Ghz 64 GB NVMe 1TB SSD + 2 TB HDD | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for DELL Precision 3630 8 Core i9-9900K 3.60 Ghz 64 GB NVMe 1TB SSD + 2 TB HDD at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

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[Flintstone61]

move away from Optiplex if you want native support for 2 internal 3.5" HDDs. Get the HP Elitedesk in SFF or Tower, and/or the Dell Precision 3630/3650.

 

[Flintstone61]

If it's for work and noise is not factor, the WD Purple Pro's spin at 7200 RPM and can help thru-put when reviewing videos

Western Digital Purple Pro 10TB Surveillance Hard Drive 3.5" WD101PURP | eBay

Western Digital Purple PRO 10TB, Internal Hard Drive, WD101PURP, 3.5"/256 MB/7200 RPM. WD Purple PRO Surveillance. WD Purple Pro drives also feature enterprise-class performance, data integrity and drive reliability, especially in larger-scale systems and enclosures where operational vibration...

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