90_Moneypit
n3wb
Hello!
Most of my security experience has been more on the physical side of things with some experience on the now ancient BNC/CC video side. Bought a house down here in Texas that has some cameras, one orphaned HiKVision NVR at the shop (no password left behind of course and bricked it when I cleaaned off the half inch of dust inside) and they hacked the ends of half the cameras and took the NVR at the house leaving the cables dangling from an almost rectangular hole in the wall near the ceiling... To say the previous install wasn't professional (or shame on anyone who charged for what I've seen so far!) is an understatement. I'm old (51), lazy (see 51 y/o) since crawling around in attic spaces after 35 years of mostly hard physical labor means several days of heat pads and extra tylenol. I do however want to see what's going in, out, and around on my 4 acres. I know I'm going to have to bite the bullet on the install and do it myself but I have a couple questions that google-fu hasn't quite answered. Yeah, I'm old but that also comes with a little over 40 years of computer and 30 years of internet experience so it all wasn't a waste of time and I'm not 'bending light with my denseness' (which I really did enjoy that reference in the the VPN n00b section). I was always the hardware side of the equation and my networking side buddy is gone now so here I am trying to learn new tricks.
My first thought was to integrate a Lorex Fusion system with a Lorex Pro system but it doesn't look like they work too well with each other and I've rarely regretted buying a better over a lesser system. Well that's a lie, I curse constantly while I obsessively research everything on the 'better system' while I'm doing it but LONG TERM, I rarely regret it I guess.
Let me know if I should post these questions somewhere else here but for now I want to get them out of my head and into the superior minds here:
Biggest questions now are:
Is there really any reason other than visual deterence between Bullet and Turret cameras these days? I see no difference between FOV and range between the Lorex/Dahua Nocturnal/Starlight at 107 Deg and 150' range for both (variable focus models aside)? Is the only benefit going to come from sunshade and visual deterence if I supplement the turrets with a few bullets for the locations with minimal overhang protection (namely the exterior metal shop cameras)?
Second question which I 'think' I know the answer to but would like comfirmation on since I have a wife (and that means whatever I know is automatically wrong unless someone else says it):
Running the Lorex Pro app (at least until I finish running a MoCa line the 1200' to the shop for a central server NVR solution), Lorex claims the Fusion series cameras are 'not compatible' with the N884 NVR I have out of the box. To 'my understanding' that can be overcome by finding the individual cameras by IP and manually adding them to the NVR so it should at least record. The 'problem' would be if those cameras did not show up on the Lorex Pro app for remote viewing when there's an alert.
Why would I want a Fusion camera in the first place when I have 30fps cameras available? Because the wife has an Amazon addiction and I could build a 4th, 5th. 6th, even 7th structure on the property with all the cardboard boxes that arrive each month. If I want a closed gate, she wants to know that her precious 'whatever is in the box' is covered and that she'll get an alert when the box drops outside. The other option is to remotely open the gate so the driver can deliver it to the doorstep and the easiest way to do that is going to be a wireless camera with 2-way comms to relate a temporary gate code that also stalls them long enough for a solid license plate grab (in case). The distance to the gate from the shop is going to be pushing the 300' run even if I put another poe switch on the far side of the shop (it's 4,000 sq ft) from where I plan to run the MoCa and fiber doesn't make economic sense until I can talk my ISP into running a bridge as opposed to spending $1200+/year for a second fiber account and tunneling a VPN between the two JUST for the cameras.
Most of my security experience has been more on the physical side of things with some experience on the now ancient BNC/CC video side. Bought a house down here in Texas that has some cameras, one orphaned HiKVision NVR at the shop (no password left behind of course and bricked it when I cleaaned off the half inch of dust inside) and they hacked the ends of half the cameras and took the NVR at the house leaving the cables dangling from an almost rectangular hole in the wall near the ceiling... To say the previous install wasn't professional (or shame on anyone who charged for what I've seen so far!) is an understatement. I'm old (51), lazy (see 51 y/o) since crawling around in attic spaces after 35 years of mostly hard physical labor means several days of heat pads and extra tylenol. I do however want to see what's going in, out, and around on my 4 acres. I know I'm going to have to bite the bullet on the install and do it myself but I have a couple questions that google-fu hasn't quite answered. Yeah, I'm old but that also comes with a little over 40 years of computer and 30 years of internet experience so it all wasn't a waste of time and I'm not 'bending light with my denseness' (which I really did enjoy that reference in the the VPN n00b section). I was always the hardware side of the equation and my networking side buddy is gone now so here I am trying to learn new tricks.
My first thought was to integrate a Lorex Fusion system with a Lorex Pro system but it doesn't look like they work too well with each other and I've rarely regretted buying a better over a lesser system. Well that's a lie, I curse constantly while I obsessively research everything on the 'better system' while I'm doing it but LONG TERM, I rarely regret it I guess.
Let me know if I should post these questions somewhere else here but for now I want to get them out of my head and into the superior minds here:
Biggest questions now are:
Is there really any reason other than visual deterence between Bullet and Turret cameras these days? I see no difference between FOV and range between the Lorex/Dahua Nocturnal/Starlight at 107 Deg and 150' range for both (variable focus models aside)? Is the only benefit going to come from sunshade and visual deterence if I supplement the turrets with a few bullets for the locations with minimal overhang protection (namely the exterior metal shop cameras)?
Second question which I 'think' I know the answer to but would like comfirmation on since I have a wife (and that means whatever I know is automatically wrong unless someone else says it):
Running the Lorex Pro app (at least until I finish running a MoCa line the 1200' to the shop for a central server NVR solution), Lorex claims the Fusion series cameras are 'not compatible' with the N884 NVR I have out of the box. To 'my understanding' that can be overcome by finding the individual cameras by IP and manually adding them to the NVR so it should at least record. The 'problem' would be if those cameras did not show up on the Lorex Pro app for remote viewing when there's an alert.
Why would I want a Fusion camera in the first place when I have 30fps cameras available? Because the wife has an Amazon addiction and I could build a 4th, 5th. 6th, even 7th structure on the property with all the cardboard boxes that arrive each month. If I want a closed gate, she wants to know that her precious 'whatever is in the box' is covered and that she'll get an alert when the box drops outside. The other option is to remotely open the gate so the driver can deliver it to the doorstep and the easiest way to do that is going to be a wireless camera with 2-way comms to relate a temporary gate code that also stalls them long enough for a solid license plate grab (in case). The distance to the gate from the shop is going to be pushing the 300' run even if I put another poe switch on the far side of the shop (it's 4,000 sq ft) from where I plan to run the MoCa and fiber doesn't make economic sense until I can talk my ISP into running a bridge as opposed to spending $1200+/year for a second fiber account and tunneling a VPN between the two JUST for the cameras.
